nwoods
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
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jwest wrote: So, I went and climbed Longs Peak solo via and ice gully and rappelled down.
You repelled down the face of Longs Peak? That's awesome! I've climbed it twice, but it's been awhile. I nearly fell off the Narrows at the bottom of the home run stretch. Some yahoo slid down and bumped me pretty good. I got a REAL good look of what you repelled down. That sounds like a lot of fun to do. I haven't done that stuff in awhile, I wonder if they make harnesses that fit me? I doubt it...maybe if I look near the livery stables....
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nwoods
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
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Disco303, nice job on Holy Cross trail! I've seen some photos of that trail before. That is definitely a tough trail.
Sounds like you are ready to be the first LR3 through the Rubicon. Let me know if you ever want to do that. I'll accompany you, and take some publishable photos.
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| Mon Sep 17 2007 8:24pm |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
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I've been thru Tahoe a few times, and have always wanted to run it, just never had a rig with me. Who knows, maybe we should put something together for next season out there.
Craig 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Mon Sep 17 2007 8:34pm |
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sideview
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
Location: in the valley
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For those who are testing this out, I'm still curious if any articulation is lost by tricking the sensors to heighten, or does it still have full range of motion?
The Matzker lift, from what I understand, basically increases air pressure which limits some suspension travel. There was also a concern of weakness in the CV joint running super & super + modes for extended periods.
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic7914.ht...a582e43763
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic7383.html?highlight=
What makes tricking the sensors any different in these aspects, other than it can be swapped back and forth with stock?
Thanks  I'm not so good at giving advice...may I offer you a sarcastic comment instead?
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| Fri Sep 21 2007 1:18am |
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caverD3
Joined: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
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The Matzker lift kit AFAIK is an on road handling fix more than an off road solution. The higher air pressure would give a harder ride and also assist in the air operated sway bar effect.
Others may know more than me.
I would think you may have problems in the super extended mode if you shorten the links too much.
I have not heard of anyone operating the super extended with the mod yet. Getting there is half the fun
TDV6: Adaptive Headlights, Electronic Rear Diff.ARB Bar.Blaupunkt speakers, JVC powered Subwoofer, Removable Snorkel, Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch.
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| Fri Sep 21 2007 2:27am |
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sideview
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
Location: in the valley
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But isn't off-road mode now in essence close to super extended mode Caver, or am I misunderstanding (again  )? I take it the jury is still out on what will happen when the rig bottoms out & raises itself then. I'm not so good at giving advice...may I offer you a sarcastic comment instead?
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| Fri Sep 21 2007 2:55am |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
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sideview wrote:For those who are testing this out, I'm still curious if any articulation is lost by tricking the sensors to heighten, or does it still have full range of motion?
The Matzker lift, from what I understand, basically increases air pressure which limits some suspension travel. There was also a concern of weakness in the CV joint running super & super + modes for extended periods.
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic7914.ht...a582e43763
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic7383.html?highlight=
What makes tricking the sensors any different in these aspects, other than it can be swapped back and forth with stock?
Thanks
Available travel stays the same regardless of ride height. Hence, the 'articualtion' relationship between individual wheels is also constant. The shock is only so long and so short. The selected height just changes the point in that available spectrum where the shock comes to rest. Obviously, in standard height there is lots of available down travel but limited compression, and the exact opposite at higher settings. Lots of available compression with less droop. The overall range of travel at each corner doesn't change, only at which end of the spectrum that travel is obtainable. Granted, at the increased spring rate of higher settings, it takes more force or weight, if you will, to utilize it.
Spring rate is spring rate whether achieved through an ECU, or the link mod. In the end, It's just an increase in spring rate. And yes, I'm sure over use at those heights will wear the rest of the system prematurely.
Craig 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Fri Sep 21 2007 3:10am |
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disco4x4au
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Perth
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I'm not sure that this is the case. I've certainly noticed less articulation when at extended height, which I put down to the greater pressures in the bag and hence less compliance.
I know of two incidents (I think both in the UK?) where CV's have failed in extended height, but that's not what I'd call an endemic problem. I've also done a lot of off-roading at that height (and with fairly heavy 32" MTs fitted) and haven't had a problem yet.
Cheers,
Gordon 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff 
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SKP
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Gordon, how many kms has your D3 covered now 
Steven
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disco4x4au
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Perth
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SKP wrote:Gordon, how many kms has your D3 covered now
Steven
About 47 000 km or so.
Cheers,
Gordon 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff
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Gareth
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The CV failures were when the car was at extended, or super extended height, and full steering lock applied, along with power. Silver TDV6 HSE
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heine
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Anything will pop at those extremes
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| Fri Sep 21 2007 9:56am |
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sideview
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
Location: in the valley
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So in theory with this trickery, if I were to keep the height in normal mode (which is now close to off-road mode) for the most part, that should alleviate these issues and work much like it does w/o the mod when in off-road mode, only now I'm allowed to go at faster speeds & raise it to extended mode myself when needed.  I'm not so good at giving advice...may I offer you a sarcastic comment instead?
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| Fri Sep 21 2007 4:29pm |
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nwoods
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
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That sounds correct to me Tami, but you need to factor in some tire realignment also (ify ou are going to run it full time on paved roads)
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Rob Bruce
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
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Starting trip to Hay River tomorrow, will try out shortened rods when I get to Birdsville, so ina fiew weeks I will tell you how they went.
Rob
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