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Air suspension hight sensor joining rod modification ?
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nwoods
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 524
 
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From what I've seen of the Holy Cross trail (photos only). You are really going to want skid plates and rock sliders for that trail. <commercial>
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 Thu Dec 06 2007 8:04pm |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 23
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lr3maybe wrote:Hi Disco303,
Are you talking about the Holy Cross trail that goes from Homestake Rd to Holy Cross City (about a 2 miles or so trail)?? All I ever see on this trail are modified Jeeps.
If so, will my LR3 make it in off road mode without bottoming out? I don't have the shortened sensor arms, so it just goes to stock off road height. But I do have real tires (Nitto, slightly oversized (31.4 diam) so it sits up about 3/4 inch higher than stock. I'd really like to drive to Holy Cross City one day next summer but don't want damage. I've hiked it before from the Missouri Lake loop (from the west, not the Jeep trail).
Thanks
Yep, Just outside of Minturn... I figured that I barely squeeked through running the setup I had. It would beat up a close to stock rig pretty badly. The run with my LR3 was the 8th time I've run it, so that helped me significantly. We ran it from the first entrance which is considerably harder than taking the second entrance. Still, the one major obstacle between the second entrance and French Creek is larger than an LR3 itself. The first entrance section is by far the most fun. Nobody's LR3 is gonna make it out of the creek (cleanly) without 35+ inchers. a couple pics in my gallery...
You get my PM?
Craig 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Tue Dec 11 2007 12:06am |
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nwoods
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 524
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Disco303 wrote:Nobody's LR3 is gonna make it out of the creek (cleanly) without 35+ inchers. a couple pics in my gallery...
Is this the obstacle you are talking about? Did you make it out of this under your own power?
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| Tue Dec 11 2007 1:09am |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 23
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That pic is the last big obstacle before French Creek, and yeah, I drove up it without the winch. The Creek exit is much much worse (this year).
No rigs (including a full on Yota truggy, full hydro, big Danas etc.. on 42's) made it up the creek without the cable.
This is a pic back from French Creek's easy days...It's way worse now...
http://www.4x4books.com/images/colo12diff.jpg
Craig 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Tue Dec 11 2007 2:01am |
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drzjoint
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Location: Gaylord, Michigan
Posts: 13
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any wear problems with the lift?
going to just run while on trails and i would like to fit 275/65/18
should i cut off 10mm or go with 12?????
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| Thu Apr 17 2008 2:55am |
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drzjoint
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Location: Gaylord, Michigan
Posts: 13
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SO 12MM gives me 2.5" lift over stock off road height? 2005 SE-7 BLUE
AKA THE JUGGERNOT B**CH
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| Fri Apr 18 2008 2:42am |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 23
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drzjoint wrote:SO 12MM gives me 2.5" lift over stock off road height?
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/post202313.html#202313
 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Fri Apr 18 2008 7:40pm |
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jwest
Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC & Seattle, WA
Posts: 88
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Disco303 wrote:drzjoint wrote:SO 12MM gives me 2.5" lift over stock off road height?
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/post202313.html#202313
I've read somewhere that a person claimed to be able to drive at full highway speed in "access" height after shortening the rods.... this wold allow highway driving at old normal height more or less, then two more levels above - user selectable.
Did you ever try to see if the lr3 still automatically raises out of the lowest setting once you get going to fast? With your larger tires than most people it may never have occurred to you to try it.... it could also be that the person claiming it worked did not 'quite' shorten by a full 10mm and there might be a magic amount that gives new height but allows highway speed in "access" mode.
I'm guessing too good to be true though - please test .... 96 Disco I, 200,000 miles
04 Disco II, Vienna/Tundra, +2" lift, onboard air, 120V...
07 LR3 HSE, http://www.jwestproductions.com/lr3/
2007 328iT6 http://www.jwestproductions.com/328/
2007 R1200S .....zoom
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 7:55am |
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jwest
Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC & Seattle, WA
Posts: 88
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so, I am assuming the rod mod gives you more height than blocking under the car to induce "extended mode" ? I just did that using two jack stands - then pressed the brake and held the "up" suspension to make it rise a little more. it did but it doesn't look quite as high as 303's photos of his rod mod. I'm using 31.7 " tires so it fills the height a little too. 96 Disco I, 200,000 miles
04 Disco II, Vienna/Tundra, +2" lift, onboard air, 120V...
07 LR3 HSE, http://www.jwestproductions.com/lr3/
2007 328iT6 http://www.jwestproductions.com/328/
2007 R1200S .....zoom
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 8:29pm |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 23
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jwest wrote:I've read somewhere that a person claimed to be able to drive at full highway speed in "access" height after shortening the rods.... this wold allow highway driving at old normal height more or less, then two more levels above - user selectable.
Did you ever try to see if the lr3 still automatically raises out of the lowest setting once you get going to fast? With your larger tires than most people it may never have occurred to you to try it.... it could also be that the person claiming it worked did not 'quite' shorten by a full 10mm and there might be a magic amount that gives new height but allows highway speed in "access" mode.
I'm guessing too good to be true though - please test ....
None of the speed thresholds have changed, just the ride height that the new links provide. It stll rises into "standard" height from "access" at the same speed, and lowers from "off-road" height to "standard" at the same speed as the factory settings. 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 10:12pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Do you really need to know ?
Posts: 14281
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jwest wrote:
I've read somewhere that a person claimed to be able to drive at full highway speed in "access" height after shortening the rods.... this wold allow highway driving at old normal height more or less, then two more levels above - user selectable.
Not sure why you'd want to be able to do that as your in the bump stops at access height very bumpy unless you have very smooth highways.
As far as I know, no one has managed to change the speed change settings that LR have set yet. Only control over ride height either mechanically or electronically. Don't think the mazker kit does that either.
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 10:18pm |
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Disco303
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 23
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jwest wrote:so, I am assuming the rod mod gives you more height than blocking under the car to induce "extended mode" ? I just did that using two jack stands - then pressed the brake and held the "up" suspension to make it rise a little more. it did but it doesn't look quite as high as 303's photos of his rod mod. I'm using 31.7 " tires so it fills the height a little too.
All accessible heights (including the driver selectable "super-extended" mode that you speak of) are now proportionately higher than factory. Therefore, my linked "super-extended" mode is higher than a stock linked 'super-extended' mode. I've seen extended mode once so far on the trail, and have had no need to attain the 'super-extended' mode on the trail yet. 06 LR3 V8 SE HD
ARB winch bumper
Warn XD9000
Rasta4x4 sill protection
V6 carriers/rotors
LR OEM 17's
275/70r17 MTR's
LR KIT cargo barrier
Hella HID motorsport 4000's
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 10:20pm |
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jwest
Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC & Seattle, WA
Posts: 88
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simon wrote:Not sure why you'd want to be able to do that as your in the bump stops at access height very bumpy unless you have very smooth highways.
As far as I know, no one has managed to change the speed change settings that LR have set yet. Only control over ride height either mechanically or electronically. Don't think the mazker kit does that either.
You are forgetting that with short rods installed, "access" would now be higher (near old normal height) and thusly provide perfect highway ride height.... personally i don't like the high speed handling when at stock offroad height and this would allow the best of everything. maybe this plus the Matzker kit would be the combo seeing as I don't need as much articulation as I would like height for not bottoming out in snow. pricey solution though. 96 Disco I, 200,000 miles
04 Disco II, Vienna/Tundra, +2" lift, onboard air, 120V...
07 LR3 HSE, http://www.jwestproductions.com/lr3/
2007 328iT6 http://www.jwestproductions.com/328/
2007 R1200S .....zoom
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 10:25pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Do you really need to know ?
Posts: 14281
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I think you'll find normal ride height is perfect for highway use along with the fact that the D3 will lower itself slightly at high speed anyway to improve stability.
High speed at off road height is not necessary unless you want to destroy your suspension.
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 10:41pm |
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jwest
Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC & Seattle, WA
Posts: 88
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simon wrote:I think you'll find normal ride height is perfect for highway use along with the fact that the D3 will lower itself slightly at high speed anyway to improve stability.
High speed at off road height is not necessary unless you want to destroy your suspension.
"normal" ht is much higher when using the short rods it is NOT "perfect" for 80mph.
.... I never said I wanted to cruise at higway speed in offroad height - rather the opposite - the short rods make the std ride ht the same as old offroad ht. exactly why i don't want to cruise at the new 2" + higher level. I don't think our lr3's lower unless you are really flying considerably above posted speeds if at all. 96 Disco I, 200,000 miles
04 Disco II, Vienna/Tundra, +2" lift, onboard air, 120V...
07 LR3 HSE, http://www.jwestproductions.com/lr3/
2007 328iT6 http://www.jwestproductions.com/328/
2007 R1200S .....zoom
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| Wed Apr 23 2008 10:51pm |
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