| My Electronic Park Brake has: |
| had NO trouble at all since purchasing the vehicle |
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50% |
[370] |
| Been a screamer on one occasion |
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8% |
[59] |
| Been a screamer on many occasions |
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16% |
[124] |
| Locked on on one occasion |
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4% |
[35] |
| Locked on on many occasions |
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2% |
[20] |
| Crept forward on one occasion |
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0% |
[6] |
| Crept forward on many occasions |
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1% |
[12] |
| had a combination of all of the related issues above |
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3% |
[26] |
| had a combination of some of the related issues above |
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11% |
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gwoodier
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 1
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 EPB gave trouble from day one (April 2005). Binding - noise and hot wheels (wasted fuel!) - fixed by dealer (5 days). Stuck on a year later (recovery, replacement car, 7 days to fix - loom replacement). Binding again (Nov 2007) so looking forward to more trouble...
I asked LR why they fitted such a complex system which is destined to have multiple failure modes - their response was that it was due to customer demand. Well, I don't want it and would pay more to have it removed.
Spoils an otherwise excellent vehicle.
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simonsi
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Leicester
Posts: 880
 
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gwoodier wrote: I asked LR why they fitted such a complex system which is destined to have multiple failure modes - their response was that it was due to customer demand.
I wonder if the "demand" was to remove the slight vehicle movement that could/would occur after applying the handbrake on any of the transmission brake previous models when the footbrake was removed??? That seems to me the only change by putting the EPB on the wheels rather than the transmission...? Cheers
Simon
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| Wed Nov 14 2007 6:39am |
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SPOTTER
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
Posts: 2208
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..best ask them to remove the slight movement in the transmission whne you use Park on an Auto without the handbrake as well then  really ought to change this.........
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| Wed Nov 14 2007 7:31am |
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Gareth
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I remember reading at launch, that the reasons for introducing electronic pb was for space saving reasons in the centre console area, and ease of use and integration with other systems.
I too would prefer a manual park brake. The transmission brake on older Land Rovers is a simple, effective and very strong device that requires very little maintenance. Silver TDV6 HSE
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| Wed Nov 14 2007 8:59am |
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caverD3
Joined: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2121
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I actually love the EPB. (but there again I have never had a problem) It's nifty idea and has worked faultlessly.  i usually give s blip of the the trottle to release it before moving off, don't know if this is connected with lack of issues.
A standard PB would not give the ability of emergency stop like the all disc with the EPB.
Did have one fault message but was associated with all sorts of bings and boings and messages after a deep creek crossing. Brake still worked as normal even with the message.  Getting there is half the fun
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| Wed Nov 14 2007 9:07am |
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knersus
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Location: Pretoria
Posts: 1
 
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caverD3 wrote:I actually love the EPB. (but there again I have never had a problem) It's nifty idea and has worked faultlessly.
Same here - no problems at all, not a squeak or rattle, just the electric whib=ne when (dis-)engaging. I use it like I would a normal parking brake on an automatic. Occasionally leave it on when pulling away uphill. Habit from my older (transmission braked) LRs: I don't engage the PB while on the move. It holds the Disco on any slope, so I think it is an excellent design. Added that my wife can use it easily - on the old models she had to use both hands and there was always adjustment to be done. Regards,
TuTix & Knersus
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| Wed Nov 14 2007 9:00pm |
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BLFarrar
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, darkest Halifax, West Yorkshire
Posts: 606
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I spoke to a Lancashire Constabulary officer yesterday about his Disco...(V8's...his had 82k miles clocked up in 8 months)
They have had mega snags with the handbrakes...he couldn't see how it actually complied with vehicle regulations as it disengages itself if you press its in drive & you press the accelerator....& doesn't qualify as an auxiliary brake. ....have Disco3 HSE TD6 Auto...
....also S Type 2.7 Auto....
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| Thu Nov 15 2007 11:00pm |
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jwest
Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC & Seattle, WA
Posts: 95
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Hello all. So, we've almost all previously owned Land Rover Discovery I's and II's before finding ourselves in the high tech III, right?
I want to know if the Discovery II ever really had enough trouble with the parking brake to warrant starting a "poll" on the subject 
Aren't some simple items best left simple? I actually prefer the old hand brake that locked all 4 wheels reducing slipping on steep slopes. 96 Disco I, 210,000 miles - still going strong
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| Thu Nov 15 2007 11:23pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Location: ...
Posts: 15014
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Well if there's a button to be made to make life simple for some... they will make it 
Was told by a 'dealer' that LR have modified it and covered up all the holes that let the water and dirt in. It works perfectly now and they don't have any problems with it. It was only early 'cars' that suffered the problem and they are now all updated.
Was not my dealer by the way... but one not too far away near Worcester.
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| Thu Nov 15 2007 11:27pm |
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ronp
Joined: 29 Nov 2006
Location: over the edge!!
Posts: 4616
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I gather from a few posts on here that some bods have difficulty in releasing the EPB once it's screamed.
I've never had this problem of not releasing until I sussed it out yesterday.
My EPB [normally intermittent] screamed three times in a row yesterday.
I found out that once it screamed and I tried to move off - it wouldn't.
What I normally do is the basic 'IT fix' - switch the engine off and restart - then there is no problem pulling away.
Mine is in dealer at the moment for servicing and EPB fix - we'll see how that goes.
Was only 5k since last screamer repair.
BTW, got a 'Y' reg Pug with 110k on clock as loan car???
Are they taking the p*ss or what? slowly re-building my gallery after the wipe out !!!!
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| Fri Nov 16 2007 11:55am |
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shiny moose
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
Location: Going to Iceland to get my money out
Posts: 1516
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I've done nearly 200,000 miles in 2 D2's and a D1 in last 9 years, I never had a hand brake problem, never needed to change the shoes and I can't remember ever adjusting any of them either.
These repeated D3 faults are they mechanical - ie the linkages seize up or bend or is it alway related to the electronics within the park brake drum? Silver TDV6 S with sat nav, PTI and Moosed up a bit
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| Fri Nov 16 2007 12:26pm |
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DG
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Joined: 12 Dec 2005
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BLFarrar wrote:he couldn't see how it actually complied with vehicle regulations as it disengages itself if you press its in drive & you press the accelerator....& doesn't qualify as an auxiliary brake.
Sounds like he's an expert there then Bruce Powered by TorqTune
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| Fri Nov 16 2007 1:40pm |
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Tim in Scotland
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Location: All at sea
Posts: 352
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3 weeks ago today my 2008MY TDv8RRS arrived.............................................. OK so it's only covered 1600 miles since and a lot of those have been on the motorway and fast A roads with very little town driving, however I am pleased to report that so far the EPB hasn't uttered one squeek and hasn't bound on at all. Let's see what happens tomorrow now I've reported it as fine How can Carbon have a footprint if it has no feet?
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| Fri Nov 16 2007 6:33pm |
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zaphod
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
Location: Magrathea
Posts: 183
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Right! Where do I start. Further to my post 9/11 on this thread saying the world was rosy regarding the EPB (all replaced under warranty), today the world fell apart! Stopped at lights and pulled the EPB on to hear a bang, screech and then the car lurched to one side (much to the amusement of passing pedestrians! - feel like bobo the clown in the circus car!). EPB had self destructed and jammed on...........................fantastic. Dashboard was bonging away merrily and had lots of pretty flashing lights like a christmas tree. Lucky me, last day of the warranty today!
On the bright side, LRA sorted me out with a brand new FFRR as a loaner until it's fixed. Went straight to dealer and took out the extended warranty! Can't wait to get the technical report on what went wrong.............. Sail Fast - Live Slow...
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| Fri Nov 16 2007 6:54pm |
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Zilch
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney-ish via High Wycombe
Posts: 43
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Quack wrote:" they never go wrong on the RRS sir !!"
bull  happy to prove him wrong, as will Tim i think another Pommie from the darkside
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