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Stop that Sinking Feeling
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allie
Joined: 16 Aug 2005
Location: North Wales
Posts: 96
 
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My D3 is now 6 weeks old, on its first long haul I found the seats dreadful,  for the last 3 weeks I have had the most appalling lower back pain,which has been treated unsuccessfully by acupuncture and moderate exercise.  I have suffered occasionally with this before, but not to this degree. I will be discussing this with LR dealer this coming week.
Still love the car! Allie
A11 EEY
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 Sat Oct 08 2005 9:18am |
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PJ
Joined: 19 Oct 2005
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 51
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So all of us with cloth seats are complaining, received letter back from L.R. recently staing that mine had been the only negative comment!!. Will get dealer to do EPQR next time I visit, in the meantime does anyone have a number for the EPQR that they raised on this issue.
Thanks TDV6 2004 Auto Zambezi Silver Badged SE not quite an S with Nav & Rear DVD
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| Mon Oct 24 2005 4:01pm |
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BN
Joined: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
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OK, I will add my name to it as well and I have been working with LR to resolve the problem. I am sure Slimer will add to this, so we now have 4 people, three of which we know have filled out an EPQR on the seat.
Oh dear LR, please take note of us, it is no use telling little tales, we will find you out and prove there are issues. Don't cover up the issues, resolve them.
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| Mon Oct 24 2005 4:14pm |
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lee01277
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Shed
Posts: 753
 
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Add another EPQR for mine.. although the temp fix using the ply-wood / velcro I mentioned did cause a knowing smile ? Perhaps they know something we don't in terms of a formal fix 
I'm joking,,,, I hope ! 
ps, Nice Freelander as a loaner, but I nearly took out the next doors mondeo due to the (lack of) turning circle, and also , does the Freelander have a drivers seat hight adjuster, or is it only for peole lower than 6'2". I couldn't find anything in teh short time I used the car .. If your not part of the Solution, Your part of the Problem !
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| Tue Nov 01 2005 7:44pm |
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Hasgaroth
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 14
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I had a Freelander as a loaner when they were sorting out my last lot of suspension problems... I'm 6'4", and spent the whole time with half my head in the sunroof!!! 
Turns out, (according to the guy at the garage), LR don't do height adjustable seats for the Freelander! How c  p is that! 2005 Disco3 TDV6 HSE, Bonatti Grey
2005 VW Beetle Cabriolet, Aquarius Blue
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| Tue Nov 15 2005 5:40pm |
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croyde
Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Location: SE England
Posts: 425
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Apart from the sinking feeling, I don't seem to find the cloth seats uncomfortable.
Are they really different to the leather ones or are the cloth ones in my MY 06 different from the MY 05?
6ft and 13 1/2 stone.
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| Mon Nov 28 2005 11:37pm |
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al cope
Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 1814
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I've been into my dealer with my 3 week old S, and when I said about the drivers seat sinking, I was told the S didn't have drivers seat height adjustment! It was classed as backrest adjustment!
Its going back in on 4th Jan, and I'll raise (excuse then pun) the issue again, along with being bloody uncomfortable. I was hpoing that having the footrest removed would help with legroom, and seating position, and whilst there is some improvement, after another 260 miles today, I'm not impressed.
Alan TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony
(and 19" RRS alloys, and 20" RRS alloys, and 19" RRS alloys, and........back on 20's - finally, honest, satnav & DVD)
Remember - You can only walk so far into the wilderness before you are walking out again
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| Wed Dec 14 2005 5:58pm |
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lee01277
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Shed
Posts: 753
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last time I looked, the whole seat goes up and down on mine, not just the backrest ?
In any case it dosn't alter the fact that it still sinks.
Someone has posted the solution tech spec for the fix ... which is 2 bits of velcro and small bit of wood. If your not part of the Solution, Your part of the Problem !
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| Wed Dec 14 2005 6:02pm |
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al cope
Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 1814
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Have another look, and you find the base height adjuster only lifts the back of the seat base, not the front, so if you lift it, you end up with a feeling of being tipped forward out of the seat, and have no support under the back of you thighs.
Alan TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony
(and 19" RRS alloys, and 20" RRS alloys, and 19" RRS alloys, and........back on 20's - finally, honest, satnav & DVD)
Remember - You can only walk so far into the wilderness before you are walking out again
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| Wed Dec 14 2005 7:17pm |
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lee01277
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Shed
Posts: 753
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how is it described in the blurb ? I'm sure it says Seat, not Seatback If your not part of the Solution, Your part of the Problem !
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| Wed Dec 14 2005 7:27pm |
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BN
Joined: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
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This well documented see my letters:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24878#24878
One particular paragraph:
Why deny that even such things as an uncomfortable seat complaint has not been reported, when they clearly have and indeed on EPQR’s your own official defect report system. I can prove that I have been working with a specialist seat company and Land Rover with the approval and agreement of Land Rover who are going to pay for the modification to be carried out under warranty to improve the seat.
You have lied again Ford.
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| Wed Dec 14 2005 8:13pm |
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lee01277
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Shed
Posts: 753
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Might be worth a try ...
I've spent the last week and about 1000 miles with the seat in its (default) deflated position, and fiddled with the adjustments available from the reach / recliner / lumbar ..
By the end of the week, I have that I found it to be ok, but I guess being a 6 footer may be an advantage here.
I'm still wanting the seat te be "fixed", but now I won't bother with pumping up the seat every few days.. If your not part of the Solution, Your part of the Problem !
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| Wed Feb 15 2006 4:58pm |
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zebadee
Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: The Magic Roundabout
Posts: 581
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I’ve posted this over on the “GENERAL” section, but thought I’d post it here also. So sorry about the double posting. Hopefully I haven’t broken any rules. 
Initially I also thought that the “Sinking Seat” scenario was caused my hitting the lever when getting out of the vehicle. This resulted in some very entertaining acrobatics as I tried various ways of getting out without hitting the lever !!!
However I've since found that on a long journey, of say 2hrs, the seat will have sunk a little before I reach my destination, requiring a pump up again.
So I spoke to my dealer about this & they say that there is a design problem with the seats that LR are aware of. Apparently they (my dealer) have replaced a couple of seat bases, only to have the problem reoccur. So after contacting LR about this they were told that there is a modified seat base being issued to solve the problem.
They had offered to replace my seat base, but as it’s quite a task, we’ve decided to wait to see if this “modified base” LR are issuing will solve the problem.
So when they’ve proved the new seat base on other D3’s I’ll get mine done.
I’ll keep you posted.
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| Thu Feb 23 2006 10:16am |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Location: ...
Posts: 15015
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zebadee wrote:I’ve posted this over on the “GENERAL” section, but thought I’d post it here also. So sorry about the double posting. Hopefully I haven’t broken any rules.
No worries. Makes it easier for those concerned to find. And yes please keep us posted as I am looking to get a new base too once the new rev appears.
-s 
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| Thu Feb 23 2006 10:20am |
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lee01277
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Shed
Posts: 753
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I wonder if affected cars will get a recall notice ????????????????? If your not part of the Solution, Your part of the Problem !
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| Thu Feb 23 2006 10:23am |
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