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stapldm
Joined: 11 Sep 2006
Location: In a queue for diesel
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Hampstead wrote:Would there be an alternative technique/hardware if I don't need the timer?
In my own case, I was unable to start the FBH without the timer; even though I had a similar pin-out list to slats above, I couldn't drive the heater from pins one or three with any signals at all. I'm not in a position to say that this applies to all FBH units.
The timer was the only way I could generate the required w-bus signal for pin 2 - if you don't put it in the cabin ( and there's no reason to if you're not going to use it as a timer) then it would happily sit inside the waterproof box.
Just make sure it's secured so the buttons can't be pressed by it banging around in there; perhaps with soft foam over the front to protect it. Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Terry Pratchett, Discworld
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Hampstead
Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Location: Suffolk
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Yes - I think I'll secrete it under the bonnet.
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| Mon Nov 12 2007 2:57pm |
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NoDo$h
Joined: 02 May 2006
Location: Dodging peanuts
Posts: 5925
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GEOFF DALZELL wrote:ND i didnt get the info sent when i won one , but i used my translator to copy my request into German and sent him both versions and he sent me the info that day ,in mostly German but one sentence was in English, its worth a try ,my FBH started up for the first time last night coming home from work Good Luck
I speak a little German (really little) and asked hime very politely for bank details. He's come back to me to confirm the amount to pay including p&p to the UK but still hasn't provided the account info.   Going, going...... Gone!
Carbon footprint? I neither know nor give a damn
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| Mon Nov 12 2007 9:39pm |
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MrH
Joined: 08 Aug 2007
Location: In a world of my own...
Posts: 956
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I speak a little German (really little) and asked hime very politely for bank details. He's come back to me to confirm the amount to pay including p&p to the UK but still hasn't provided the account info. [/quote]
ND, I am, German. I'll send you a PM with contact details and I'll see if I can help. DN Formerly Disconutter
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| Mon Nov 12 2007 9:49pm |
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NoDo$h
Joined: 02 May 2006
Location: Dodging peanuts
Posts: 5925
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Top bloke, thanks DN  Going, going...... Gone!
Carbon footprint? I neither know nor give a damn
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| Mon Nov 12 2007 10:37pm |
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PaulP
Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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Morning all,
I hope I'm not about to ask a stupid question....How do I know if I have a FBH?
I understand that they are/were only fitted to certain cars and only for certain markets...is this true or do all D3s have them? Mine is a Spanish (i.e. euro-spec) MY06 SE.
If it's a stupid question, feel free to fire away (it is Friday after all). 
Cheers,
Paul 2006 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
1990 Audi 90 2.2E Sport 5-cyl Tornado Red
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 10:35am |
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SPOTTER
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
Posts: 2098
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There will be a small exhaust and heat shield at the bottom, forward end of the left front wheel arch. (UK anyway)
Under the bonnet on a UK spec car at front left (i.e. immediately behind the headlight) is a metal unit with a Webasto plate on it. really ought to change this.........
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 10:57am |
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simonsi
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Leicester
Posts: 684
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I've just had the Webasto kit fitted by JE as I was short of time and inclination, it went in with no issues and works fine. Temp gauge was almost up to normal after 20mins of preheat this morning (wasn't that cold but couldn't resist a test run  ).
Special LR-related instructions with the kit advise not to run the heater when nose-down by >5deg or tilted right by >5deg....although I can't remember seeing such a limitation in the D3 handbook - or does the tilt sensor prevent the vehicle (as opposed to the Webasto timer) from running the FBH if it detects such angles  Cheers
Simon
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 11:05am |
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wiggs
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: back from Holiday
Posts: 2175
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PaulP wrote:Morning all,
I hope I'm not about to ask a stupid question....How do I know if I have a FBH?
I understand that they are/were only fitted to certain cars and only for certain markets...is this true or do all D3s have them? Mine is a Spanish (i.e. euro-spec) MY06 SE.
If it's a stupid question, feel free to fire away (it is Friday after all).
Cheers,
Paul
Paul , open your bonnet and between the battery compartment and the near side headlight you should see this
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There is the webasto heater , a small air filter (top right ) and an exhaust silencer ( bottom )
Hope this helps JAVA BLACK SE , MANUAL , PRIVACY GLASS , EBONY LEATHER , COLOUR CODED PARTS , SIDE PROTECTION TUBES , HIDDEN WINCH (12000 LBS) , 19" HSE WHEELS.
Toys...Freeview Tv and Radio , Dvd Player , Reversing Camera , LR Bluetooth Kit , Remote Dialing Webasto Heater , Rear Strobes , USB Tyre Pressure Monitoring System.
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 2:45pm |
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PaulP
Joined: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 760
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wiggs wrote:Hope this helps
It certainly does. I'll have a look tonight wjen I get home and prise the keys from my wifes vice-like grip.
Thanks gents,
Paul
BTW, does anyone know what are the criteria for having a FBH installed? Country, Spec, Model Year? 2006 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
1990 Audi 90 2.2E Sport 5-cyl Tornado Red
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 2:49pm |
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wiggs
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: back from Holiday
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I was under the impression that all diesel models had them fitted .
Non on the V8 petrol.
But i may be wrong. JAVA BLACK SE , MANUAL , PRIVACY GLASS , EBONY LEATHER , COLOUR CODED PARTS , SIDE PROTECTION TUBES , HIDDEN WINCH (12000 LBS) , 19" HSE WHEELS.
Toys...Freeview Tv and Radio , Dvd Player , Reversing Camera , LR Bluetooth Kit , Remote Dialing Webasto Heater , Rear Strobes , USB Tyre Pressure Monitoring System.
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 2:59pm |
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10forcash
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simonsi wrote:Special LR-related instructions with the kit advise not to run the heater when nose-down by >5deg or tilted right by >5deg....although I can't remember seeing such a limitation in the D3 handbook - or does the tilt sensor prevent the vehicle (as opposed to the Webasto timer) from running the FBH if it detects such angles
it's to do with the fuel pickup in the tank - there's an internal transfer pump that fills up a fuel 'well' when the engine is running, obviously this doesn't run when only the FFBH is activated so operating at angles or with a low fuel level will drain this 'well' resulting in FFBH lockout and potentially a rough idle once the engine is started until the fuel well is replenished  for Freelander 2 Diesel, Discovery 3 / RR Sport TDV6 & RR Sport TDV8, Defender (TD5 & Puma) - available Now!
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 5:57pm |
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simonsi
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Leicester
Posts: 684
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10FC - Ah!! That is maybe why I did get a bit of a rough idle this morning -does the replenish pump run with the ignition on before starting do you know - or just while the engine runs? Cheers
Simon
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Body Side Strips - Xenons - Bright Pack - Cold Pack - Premium Stereo
Alpine Roof - Towpack - Alpine Touchscreen Satnav - Veba Rear DVD changer
Alpine Roof Monitor - Webasto FBH Timer - Awesome Brembo Frt & S/C Rr Brakes
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 6:01pm |
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10forcash
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It runs when the ignition is on initially then shuts down once the LP side of the fuel system is up to pressure until the engine is started, somewhere in the dim and distant past when the 'radio trick' worked, there were warnings about running the FFBH for longer than 30 mins as this would deplete the fuel reserve for Freelander 2 Diesel, Discovery 3 / RR Sport TDV6 & RR Sport TDV8, Defender (TD5 & Puma) - available Now!
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| Fri Nov 30 2007 6:06pm |
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simonsi
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Location: Leicester
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Thanks - just the answer I was looking for Cheers
Simon
TDV6 S Auto - Zambezi Silver - JE Tune - RRS 19" - Sidesteps - Roof Rails
Body Side Strips - Xenons - Bright Pack - Cold Pack - Premium Stereo
Alpine Roof - Towpack - Alpine Touchscreen Satnav - Veba Rear DVD changer
Alpine Roof Monitor - Webasto FBH Timer - Awesome Brembo Frt & S/C Rr Brakes
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