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Robbie
 


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Robbie's D4 Fails MoT...Wait what???

My D4 revises for the MoT most of the year so a bit of a surprise.

Rear brakes below 1.5mm limit apparently.

But I check my brakes... or have I made an error?

So back home during lunch, lifted the rear and prised out the old pads and bunged in a set of the latest TRW pads:

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Errr, just what is wrong with the old ones:

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Top one is the thinnest and hunted for the bit of the pad with the most wear:

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Evil or Very Mad

So reason for failure turns out to be a made-up measurement of pad thickness.

Just back from the MoT station after handing them a set of micrometers and the collection of pads. The look on his face was priceless but he then tried to justify the decision on the basis that they would wear out at some point and it is better to fail the MoT if the pads don't look like they would be in limits for the coming year!

Got to go back against in 10 minutes to sort out a new certificate, but still annoyed!
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Was it a free re-test? I wouldn't be paying for a re-test!
  
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Haha would have liked to be a fly in the wall for that conversation Rolling with laughter

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Now insisting on testing the pads I have just fitted!

They are nudging me towards a formal complaint....
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I am now refusing to budge until they refund my original fee. I'm not paying anything for this faff.
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I'm looking forward to finding out your result!

Good Luck!
  
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To be fair they have to sign off the MOT cert and they don't know your level of spannering skill.

You could also be a inspector and checking them out.

At least they got you to change the pads Very Happy
  
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Robbie
 


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Quote:
'But I cannot issue a refund...'


I'll wait whilst you sort it.

Quote:
'My area manager is in a meeting...'


I'll wait.

Quote:
'I have to tick a box to justify a reason and if it is the wrong one I can be in trouble if there is an audit... could we send you a cheque?


I'll wait.

Quote:
'I cannot get anyone on the phone....'


I'll wait.

Quote:
'Pop your card in the machine for a refund.'


Thank-you.

My first ever MoT 'failure' - what a faff. At least it was free.

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Sounds like they picked the wrong person to try and pull the wool over his eyes! Good result, just hassle you could do without.
  
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Robbie wrote:
Now insisting on testing the pads I have just fitted!

They are nudging me towards a formal complaint....
Formal complaint required , Censored Thumbs Up  
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LT
 


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Good for you Thumbs Up

Should never have happened though. It could have been an advisory maybe, but never a fail.

Smacks of a scam to me. Evil or Very Mad
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I'd still make a complaint. Ok, so you got yours free, but based on a sample of 1, they're making up stuff as an excuse to fail and presumably getting 99% of other people to have remedial work done by them.

Increasingly I use places that only do MOTs and not garages so I don't get spurious fails.
  
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Well done. Thumbs Up
  
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Oh definitely a formal complaint as you are 100% in the right.
But be prepared for a reply that you could get from them. How do we know that was the pad we failed?
  
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The beginning:

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The middle (look, a clean pass):

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The end:

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