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dragonoak4x4
 


Member Since: 27 Jan 2017
Location: Misson, Nr Doncaster
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3
My D3 V8 now on LPG

So happy just picked up my D3 yesterday from having it converted to LPG. Have the Prinns system with valve care fitted. A very very tidy install. Drove back to Yorkshire from Milton Keynes last night and loved every mile. Will post pictures tomorrow.
 D3 V8 SE LPG
Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Westminster
Volvo V90 T6 Recharge speeding ticket machine(Sold)
Triumph Stag 1973 
 
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maxbasscat
 


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Ukraine 2005 LR3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenLR3

very much in my thoughts too.....MPG expectation, cost, payback time any pics
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D3 4.4 V8 Zambezi silver
D3 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue
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dragonoak4x4
 


Member Since: 27 Jan 2017
Location: Misson, Nr Doncaster
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

Hi MPG will be very similar to petrol, pay back will depend on millage but I just paid 53.6p per litre for LPG rather than £1.17p per litre for petrol. If you do 10,000 miles a year it takes 2 years to make the savings. I looked at it as part of the cost in buying the car. Conversion was £2600 for the Prinns system 2 years warranty and the garage I used has been doing it for a long time and they know what they are doing. When you look under the bonnet it is such a tidy job you cant see much difference. There are cheaper options but you need valve care with the 4.4 V8 so be careful. Prinns is the RR of gas conversions.
I will add pictures tomorrow once I have washed it Smile
 D3 V8 SE LPG
Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Westminster
Volvo V90 T6 Recharge speeding ticket machine(Sold)
Triumph Stag 1973 
 
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SafariDave
 


Member Since: 19 Nov 2011
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United States 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

Awesome!!!
Wish they had this LPG conversion package in the USA. Would do it to both of our D3's.
Dave
 D3 2005 V8 SE Bonatti Grey "The Rhino" (our NYC D3)
De-tangoed Headlights, D4 2016 Style Black Pack Grille, D4 19" Wheels/ Bridgestone Alenza
D3 2005 V8 SE Bonatti Grey, D4 2016 Style Black Pack Grille (our LA D3)
D2 1999 V8 SD7 Chawton White (our Caribbean Beach truck) 
 
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Ja92mie
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Java BlackDiscovery 3

The price of fuel in the states is cheap isn't it? Whistle
  
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plocker
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

I don't see the point in LPG. If you are bothered about fuel prices just buy a log burner in the first place.

Payback above doesn't include the fact of it will need new heads at some point.
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dragonoak4x4
 


Member Since: 27 Jan 2017
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

I have run plenty of vehicles on LPG as a fellow V8 owner I am sure you will understand there is a lot more refinement over the TDV6. Will keep you posted about the heads but with the valve care package, I am hoping this will take care of that issue and personally I prefer LPG less nasties in the emissions.
 D3 V8 SE LPG
Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Westminster
Volvo V90 T6 Recharge speeding ticket machine(Sold)
Triumph Stag 1973 
 
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dragonoak4x4
 


Member Since: 27 Jan 2017
Location: Misson, Nr Doncaster
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

Taken some photos today
Tank where the spare wheel was.


Rear filler

Very tidy under the bonnet

It fits in here

Gas evaporator


Valve care, this inject lubrication to protect the valves

and a few of the D3 after a wash and a wax.







 D3 V8 SE LPG
Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Westminster
Volvo V90 T6 Recharge speeding ticket machine(Sold)
Triumph Stag 1973 
 
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Alphamale
 


Member Since: 28 May 2014
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United Kingdom 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

Hey dragonoak4x4 don't believe all you hear about VSR. I have an '05 D3 that has had LPG fitted from new by the first owner.

Only last year did any problems show up that were put down (by me) to VSR i.e. low cylinder compressions and valve clearances out of adjustment. Upon removal of the heads no significant valve or valve seat damage was found beyond that which might be expected for and engine of this age. (I had the valve clearances adjusted and the valves 'lapped in' by an engineering works).

If I'd taken it to the LPG specialists (LPG specialist because they understand LPG systems and V8 engines) they would have adjusted the valve clearances, which is all that was really needed though another problem with the LPG, which was causing the MIL to light (and which initiated the whole investigation into probable VSR) was down to the LPG injectors being clogged by Sulphidation or similar, in the end they needed replaced.

Only wish we could get Autogas for as little as 53.9p, it costs me 60.9p at my nearest outlet.
   
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dragonoak4x4
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

That's cool Smile I didn't tell you we have a local farmer who sells LPG as well but he charges 45p but don't call after dark Smile
And we also have a lovely log burner

 D3 V8 SE LPG
Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Westminster
Volvo V90 T6 Recharge speeding ticket machine(Sold)
Triumph Stag 1973 
 
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Mogwyth
 


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Wales 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

On the other hand you could not believe all you are told about them not suffering from VSR, its a known issue with this engine, expect new heads at around 60-80.000 miles (valve lub may help), mine had new heads literally days before I brought because of VSR, it had done 85,000 since installation.

I cant find it at present but there is a document from one of the bigger LPG kit manufacturers that actually says expect VSR to start to show around 60.000 miles on the AJ V8 engine.

As for MPG I have never known any of the LPG motors I have owned return the same mpg on LPG as petrol, current one averages 15ish on LPG and 17ish on petrol.

Best place for LPG is the Midlands, quite a few places sub 50p and when I was in Leicester in November it was 41.5p, locally it was 58p today.
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Discoveringcomfort
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Cant' comment on VSR although some comments in other threads have been wildly off the mark in thier assumptions, I guess time will tell!

I am lucky in that I have the only ASDA in the south that has LPG and at 49p near me. Also ASDA LPG does not brng up the engine light unlike the 69p Shell Autogas!
 Series 1 V8
Series 2 Hibrid V8
Discovery 3 HSE V8 
 
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plocker
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

dragonoak4x4 wrote:
That's cool Smile I didn't tell you we have a local farmer who sells LPG as well but he charges 45p but don't call after dark Smile
And we also have a lovely log burner




As do I, but I only burn coal on mine Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Ill stick with putting unleaded in mine, and it is going to the south of France this year Thumbs Up
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Alphamale
 


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Mine had 110000ml on the clock and as I said, when the heads were off, VSR wasn't evident. Valves lapped in and clearances adjusted.

Can I ask Mogwyth, did you see your heads when they were off? Was VSR very evident or might you have got away with valve clearance adjustment? Just I feel some times garages will replace rather than rework, a head, and then it costs you an arm and a leg.

I've heard the tales of others, having new heads due to VSR, but after my personal experience I just wonder.
   
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dragonoak4x4
 


Member Since: 27 Jan 2017
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

plocker wrote:
dragonoak4x4 wrote:
That's cool Smile I didn't tell you we have a local farmer who sells LPG as well but he charges 45p but don't call after dark Smile
And we also have a lovely log burner




As do I, but I only burn coal on mine Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Ill stick with putting unleaded in mine, and it is going to the south of France this year Thumbs Up


Burn wood it burns hotter. We use our to heat 16 radiators upstairs and 4 down stairs. Wood burns so much better than coal. But we bank it up with coal on a night Smile
 D3 V8 SE LPG
Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Westminster
Volvo V90 T6 Recharge speeding ticket machine(Sold)
Triumph Stag 1973 
 
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