Member Since: 06 Sep 2013
Location: Alunda
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Do Pirelli zeros wear badly?
Hello,
I have now 255/50-20 Pirelli zeros on my D4. I just changed from 255/55-19 winter tires (studded Nokian Hakkapelitta 8 SUV) and the difference in handling is substantial. With the Nokians the car was stable and didn`t want to follow tracks in the road or similar. With the Pirellis I suddenly have a nervous car which is ok on flat road at motorway speed but bad at lower speeds and worse roads. The Pirellis are down to 5 mm so I just wonder if they start to misbehave when they wear to a certian degree?
Front lower and rear upper arms are new. Both front and rear ARB links are new. All steering joints are new and the tracking is recently done and perfect. I have experimented with various tire pressures and no real difference.
Thanks,
Peter2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 S Automatic
1999 Discovery 2 V8 ES Automatic
Earlier
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Automatic
1996 Discovery 300 Tdi ES Automatic
1975 Series 3 2.25 diesel
Nanocom Evolution for D2 V8, D3 and D4
Working kelpies for working the sheep
24th Apr 2018 11:09 am
Dexter
Member Since: 21 Sep 2007
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 1391
Hi, I just changed my original 20" Pirelli Zeros at 19,500 miles and 3mm tread left all round. I didn't notice any dramatic drop off in performance as they aged but it would probably have been too gradual to notice.
I went for GG GTs and they seem to be a decent replacement, I'm more than happy with the ride and handling. Car seems 'lighter' to drive and less tram lining for sure. I'll see how they wear.
Dex
24th Apr 2018 12:24 pm
adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Home and Happy
Posts: 6917
Getting nearly 40K (miles) per set, but I do drive like Miss Daisy
24th Apr 2018 12:25 pm
Sheepy
Member Since: 20 Feb 2013
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 630
I didn't like how mine handled when on P-zeros, and they did seem to wear much faster. Tried GG-GT, and have settled on Goodyear Wranglers - on my second set now!
24th Apr 2018 1:07 pm
Grianaig
Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
Posts: 1286
On fourth set on 18 inch wheels when I sold my D3. Never noticed tramlining. Softish rubber so great grip on roads so I tended to drive accordingly. As a result only got about 16k before needing to change. Driven carefully I would expect more mileage.2014 MY Discovery XS Indus Silver. Sadly gone. Second last LR of forty eight years continuous ownership.
24th Apr 2018 1:24 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1524
Do you mean P-Zero or Scorpion zero?
There are several reports on this forum about tramlining from 5mm on Scorpion zeros. Mine or about that now, but not really noticed it (yet).
After talking to others on this forum and looking at my use of car (not really much on muddy fields or off roading) I am going to try scorpion verdes all season tyres next.Gary
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24th Apr 2018 1:54 pm
PeterTh
Member Since: 06 Sep 2013
Location: Alunda
Posts: 330
Thanks for all input!
Tires are Scorpion zeros and I learnt a new English word today, "tramlining", that I didnĀ“t know before. Made serching the forum easier and I have also realized that tramlining is described frequently for Scorpion zeros. It might be time for new tires soon.
/Peter2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 S Automatic
1999 Discovery 2 V8 ES Automatic
Earlier
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Automatic
1996 Discovery 300 Tdi ES Automatic
1975 Series 3 2.25 diesel
Nanocom Evolution for D2 V8, D3 and D4
Working kelpies for working the sheep
24th Apr 2018 2:07 pm
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4405
Scorpions are good until they are under 5mm, then they tramline really badly. I've had Scorpions and really dont like them any more.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
24th Apr 2018 3:09 pm
BBDisco3
Member Since: 23 Nov 2008
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3640
adam wrote:
Getting nearly 40K (miles) per set, but I do dress like Miss Daisy
Corrected that for you Adam
24th Apr 2018 4:03 pm
Grianaig
Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
Posts: 1286
I only ever knew tramlining from motor cycling days but I then came across it on the forum.2014 MY Discovery XS Indus Silver. Sadly gone. Second last LR of forty eight years continuous ownership.
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