TimA
Member Since: 30 Jul 2014
Location: Beyond hope
Posts: 24
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Usually the head says keep and the heart says change but the lack of a Defender replacement and the D5 has turned this on its head for me. I find my heart saying keep the D4 and my head saying I need to change with 94k on the clock on a 64 plate. Its been very reliable but the miles are piling up!
So what to do?
Keep.... any recommendations of a good independent in the peak district? Need a 96k service soon! And then wait to see if the Defender replacement fills the gap or for Jim Ratcliffes Projekt Grenadier
OR Change.... but what to....
Sat in all the current range at dealers and came out depressed as like split tail gate and counldnt afford the only genuine article the FFRR. Maybe need to radically rethink and go for a stop gap solution until the new defender arrives 2019/20? and they then fettle out the inevitable launch problems. So a 3 year deal to 2021 then look again.
Another option i'm mulling over is to get a classic/project series/defender for the LR fix and run something else as the daily runner.
decisions decisions...
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15th May 2018 10:20 pm |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8115
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95k and worrying!- “character” on here is well on his way to around 700k miles at the last count, DLS are highly recommended and are not far from you, but what’s wrong with main agents Gordon Lamb in Chesterfield? It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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15th May 2018 10:35 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23384
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I’m in a similar position, albeit slightly more premature as I’ve still got nearly 11 months before my D4 is 3 years old.
They’ll not be a Defender on the market until late 2019 at the very earliest, based on previous LR launches.
So my thoughts are currently to keep the D4 until at least I know what the Defender is like, maybe longer or sell it later this year and buy a used SDV8 FFRR with the 2 year Approved Used Warranty.
I’ve not ruled out a 3.0 D5, I’ll keep an on used prices as I doubt I’d buy a new one.
I also regularly think about keeping the D4 forever and buying a used barge for business use. I’ve no room to park another car, so that wouldn’t be ideal.
I do fancy a SDV8 for a change though. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
Last edited by LT on 15th May 2018 10:48 pm. Edited 1 time in total
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15th May 2018 10:45 pm |
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TimA
Member Since: 30 Jul 2014
Location: Beyond hope
Posts: 24
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Not so much worrying as trying to plan next move!
Main dealers don't seem to have capacity enquired about 96k service quoted July3rd as first free slot and £773. Must be busy with all the warranty work! Also expensive. I note many examples of high milers and i feel the D4 benefits from such use. Will look up DLS.
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15th May 2018 10:45 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23384
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I ran my D3 until nearly 150k miles. It perfectly suited me, so I kept it as long as I dared. Only needed routine servicing and the standard replacements. I was offered a bargain used D4, so made the change. Regret selling it now. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
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15th May 2018 11:04 pm |
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hgrimmett
Member Since: 11 Oct 2009
Location: Bledlow
Posts: 901
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I wouldn't have my head turned by the LR used warranty again. It's very restrictive, doesn't cover diagnostics and, because my dealer can't fit me, in I have to top it up for the pleasure of using my local indy... -------------------------------------------------------------------
D4 '15 (64) Se Tech Indus Silver
Tesla Model Y LR (22)
Audi TT Roadster 225 (52)
Tesla Model 3 LR (70) (gone)
Porsche Boxster '96 2.5 5spd project (P)
Mini R52 S (54)
BMW 330e eDrive MSport '16 (gone)
D3 '07 (56) XS TDV6 Buckingham Blue (gone)
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16th May 2018 5:43 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26705
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There must be 1000’s in the same predicament. Me also. My 4 has been very good until now. It’s had an expensive failure, warranty direct didn’t cover it. It’s just had 96k, and needs tyres.
I’m not sure if the difficulty of getting a dealer workshop slot is nationwide? Mine took 6 weeks to get it in for the service, and 775 was my quote too. Was it Guy Salmon in Stockport by any chance?
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16th May 2018 5:57 am |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
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I would hazard a guess the waitng times are due to a lack of mechanics and the lack of mechanics will be due to the poor wages.
Mechanics are getting harder to find in all disciplines nowadays as nobody wants to do it anymore!
The old guys cant wait to get out and the youngesters dont want to come in.
Its been a big problem in the hgv game for years now, but in the last few years its getting better due to wages going up and they are now getting on for 40k basic (south) and its not to hard to earn 50k plus without doing silly hours.
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16th May 2018 7:24 am |
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Philip1972
Member Since: 10 Mar 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 1072
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These long waiting times are partly due to the massive increase in sales.
The dealers were set up for 100k car sales a year and just a few short years later JLR are selling 600k! There is just not the capacity at the minute.
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16th May 2018 7:32 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
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hgrimmett wrote:I wouldn't have my head turned by the LR used warranty again. It's very restrictive, doesn't cover diagnostics and, because my dealer can't fit me, in I have to top it up for the pleasure of using my local indy...
That’s useful to know; my mind had been made up on the LR warranty at 100,000 miles. No diagnostic time cover is a significant shortfall. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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16th May 2018 7:46 am |
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TimA
Member Since: 30 Jul 2014
Location: Beyond hope
Posts: 24
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Yes my quote is from GS Stockport.
My current problem is my mileage is unpredictable currently 1000 per week which makes scheduling servicing difficult!
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16th May 2018 8:05 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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My car was serviced at end of April. A few jobs were identified on the free health check. The one job that WD has agreed to pay for ( power steering hose leaking) I decided to get done. The earliest date is 8th June.
I think the booking backlog has appeared since they merged the Jag dealership with the LR outfit, in their fancy new premises.
When they were at St Mary’s way, I always had a good one to one contact who made sure I could get a booking. Not anymore, it’s a bit faceless, and to be honest, their customer relationship management (call backs etc) is shockingly bad. Getting hold of a service advisor is harder than speaking to God!
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16th May 2018 8:16 am |
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mark the spark
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: southampton
Posts: 2477
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if i was you id tie up a 3 yr lease deal on a Velar and buy back in when the new defender comes out
assuming of coarse it dosent look as bad as the D5 MY05 SE D3 Manual my first LR what a car
MY10 HSE D4 auto
MY14 XXV more buttons than the spaceshuttle
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16th May 2018 8:21 am |
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TimA
Member Since: 30 Jul 2014
Location: Beyond hope
Posts: 24
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First went to St Mary's way in 91 when I picked up first D1! I agree the move to new premises has changed the customer experience. I shared your experiences trying to get an appointment over the last two weeks whilst all the time the mileage piles up!
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16th May 2018 8:26 am |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
Location: Hiding under the M60
Posts: 12720
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Talking of expensive services … broke it to SWMBO that the 7 year service is due next month and costs a serious amount of money. She's gone off to work muttering "sell it" or something similar. I tried not to listen too closely.
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16th May 2018 8:28 am |
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