Kingscote11
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: Cowichan Bay
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I have just signed up because I have just driven the 1000+ kms (600 miles) from Vancouver Island, B.C. to Calgary, Alberta and back experiencing white knuckle "Skating" on black ice for too many miles to mention! I switched the traction control to Snow/Grass early in the outbound trip passing a semi on a "Snow-covered hill" (I think there's a song with that line in it?) and the engine increases revs, the wheels dug in and I had traction but it seems odd to me that on the "Highway mode" AWD there is this lack of straight tracking on ice and snow and feeling of "Losing it" without switching to what feels like an off road mode to keep up with traffic doing 100kmh/60mph without AWD or traction control! Front wheel drive cars were passing me!!!!
I checked in with the Calgary dealership but they were about as useless as T@#s on a bull!
Does anyone have any insights before I call my local dealership this week? Maybe it's just a northern thing? I can't find any further info in the manual, oh, and by the way, I have had many other "Issues" with the car but will maybe get into those some other time.
Thanks.
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simon
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Don't forget the laws of physics apply in any vehicle, clever that the D3 is, 2,700KG's of 4 wheel driven metal will behave way differently to a much lighter 2 wheel drive saloon.
When you select GGS, the throttle response is retarded to help avoid wheel spin and the application of too much power to the driven wheel when accelerating. You'll notice this in a second or two of selecting GGS.
TC and DSC will be set up to help catch any wayward sliding.
BUT, if the 2,700KG's of D3 has no traction or very little traction, it will break away far sooner than a smaller or lighter 2 wheel drive car. Physics again.
If they were passing you, then they were probably going way too fast anyway.
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Nigel Tracey
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And what tyres 
Assuming you've got winters on right ?
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Sorry, i've read the first post four times now and still can't make sense of it 
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James R
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Normal highway mode is for normal highways. The G-G-S setting is for "surfaces which are firm, but have a coating of loose material. This could be grass, snow or loose gravel, pebbles or sand. This program should also be selected in icy conditions"
I don't really understnd the problem!
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Kingscote11
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
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Thanks for your responses, I have owned and driven countless cars, vans, trucks, 4wd, AWD, and trailers in snow and ice in this country and numerous times on this route for 30 yrs., including high performance driving. I have never had this experience with any other vehicle, perhaps I'll keep it in the garage for these trips and drive my Golf?!! [/url]
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Ken
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Kingscote11 wrote:Thanks for your responses, I have owned and driven countless cars, vans, trucks, 4wd, AWD, and trailers in snow and ice in this country and numerous times on this route for 30 yrs., including high performance driving. I have never had this experience with any other vehicle, perhaps I'll keep it in the garage for these trips and drive my Golf?!! [/url]
Best you do that Bye 
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cherokee
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For what its worth, I think you should select GGS
or whatever setting you need for the terrain you
are on, it is no good waiting till the vehicle starts
sliping and sliding and then changing it,it will slide
like any other vehicle if you are not in control.
Just what simon said it weighs 2:7tons. 
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cherokee
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Kingscote11 wrote:Thanks for your responses, I have owned and driven countless cars, vans, trucks, 4wd, AWD, and trailers in snow and ice in this country and numerous times on this route for 30 yrs., including high performance driving. I have never had this experience with any other vehicle, perhaps I'll keep it in the garage for these trips and drive my Golf?!! [/url]
Wwwoooww!
That was a wasted post 
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simon
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I've driven on snow too in many vehicles 2WD and 4WD. The D3 set on GGS has been the most stable vehicle yet as long as you appreciate that it takes a lot of friction to stop a large vehicle.
As I said, in situations where grip is at a minimum, the D3 will break free quicker than a light car due to momentum. Just take is easy.
What wheels / tyres are you using ?
They will make a huge difference. The standard Wrangler M&S are good for most situations up to the extreme.
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crews control
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Even rich RRS drivers are susceptible to the laws of physics!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wh7i_slippery-parking_auto
(I can't work out what he was trying to do here, apart from park in the river!)
Can someone translate?
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shiny moose
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looks like he got that sinking feeling
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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mmm thats the problem with snow... cover s even the thinnest sliver of ice on a pool to make it look like a parking place
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Kingscote 11
If you dont like the thing, just sell it
Problem solved
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caverD3
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I think the guy was asking if he was doing anything wrong or if he had a problem with his vehicle.
Stupid comment about the Golf really.
We have members here who have driven in icy and snow bound conditions and have not had a problem.
Maybe they can help with tips on ice driving. 
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