Martin
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| Spare Wheel Hoist Seizure |
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- Classification
- Mechanical system issue
- Problem
- Spare wheel hoist seizing if the cable is raised/lowered without tension on it
- Affected vehicles
- All
- Reported
- 15th July 2006 by Herman in Post #70695
- Reported Cases
- Many, see Topic #2632
- Occurs
- Constant issue
- Submitted to dealer network
- Yes
- Dealer Response
- n/a
- Submitted to LR Customer Services
- n/a
- LR CS Response Reported
- n/a
- Fix/Solution
- None: Spare wheel hoists have been replaced under warranty, unaware if any design changes have been made to the hoist to prevent the same problem occuring again. To mitigate the risk of seizure I would recommend that anyone who is raising or lowering the cable with out a wheel hanging on it puts tension on it.
- Other Comments
- Probably the only time that vehicle owners will use the wheel hoist is when they have to use the spare due to a puncture. If you put the wheel with the punctured tyre in the boot and raise the cable without tension on it, when you come lower the cable it may seize.
There is no evidence that a modified hoist has been introduced.
Last edited by Martin on Thu Feb 28 2008 1:06pm; edited 1 time in total
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 Wed Jan 23 2008 11:45pm |
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Bushwanderer
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Except that LR - at least in Australia - recommend in their manual that you remove the spare wheel from underneath the car before going off-road. 
Peter,
2005 D3 S TDV6 manual.
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| Sun Jan 27 2008 6:10am |
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crews control
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 294
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Yep, that exactly what happened to me. Punctured tyre placed in boot and winch wound up without tension. This seized the winch and the whole part had to be replaced under warranty, (it's a sealed unit). I can't see if there are any design changes inside, but I certainly won't be winding this up or down without some weight on it!
Discussed here:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic2632.html
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic15894.html Paul
D3 TDV6 HSE
Buckingham Black / Alpacca Leather
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| Sun Jan 27 2008 8:45am |
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shiny moose
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Location: Capital of Mercia
Posts: 977
 
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Winch made by Magal metallifacture (the old AP Driveline) in Lemington Spa.
There engineers are not aware of this problem, no feed back has been received from Land Rover on this issue. Silver TDV6 S with sat nav, PTI and Moosed up a bit
"PROGRESS IS MANS ABILITY TO COMPLICATE SIMPLICITY"
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| Thu Mar 27 2008 12:01am |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Do you really need to know ?
Posts: 13905
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Recently had a puncture and put the removed wheel in the boot.
Wound up the cable with no wheel and it worked fine.
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| Thu Mar 27 2008 12:11am |
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AVE
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
Location: In the land of the Superlambanana
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I had a puncture last week, got the spare off ok, took wheel to be repaired.
Tried to put spare back today, cable came down about 9" when I felt it starting to jam. Had to get one of the guys from work to pull on cable whilst I unwound it. Got the job done, but it'd be impossible if you were on your own. Disco 3 TDV6 HSE
Mini Cooper
Previous car: Disco 2 V8
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| Tue Apr 08 2008 5:40pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Earth
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I had the same problem recently. I wound the cable up empty after I got a puncture doing the Easter Weekend. When I wound it back out it then 'seized' CarlS removed the hoist took it apart sorted the 'sprung' cable re-assembled the unit and all is fine. 
It winds up when empty ok its the unwind empty that appears to be the issue. So from now on as AVE said I will get someone to pull on it as I wind it out. For use of a 4x4 site and driver training pm me 
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| Tue Apr 08 2008 5:54pm |
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Ken
Joined: 20 Feb 2006
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Or get a spare wheel carrier Each day that ends brings me one day closer to my demise
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| Tue Apr 08 2008 6:41pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Earth
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Ken wrote:Or get a spare wheel carrier
F that they dent the tail gate  For use of a 4x4 site and driver training pm me
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| Tue Apr 08 2008 6:49pm |
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Ken
Joined: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here & There
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they dont dent the tailgate the  operator does dont they DG Each day that ends brings me one day closer to my demise
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| Tue Apr 08 2008 7:19pm |
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shiny moose
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Location: Capital of Mercia
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The winch on the D3 is a posh upmarket one apparently with moulded in wire guides, the cheap one Renault and Ford use are plain bobbins Silver TDV6 S with sat nav, PTI and Moosed up a bit
"PROGRESS IS MANS ABILITY TO COMPLICATE SIMPLICITY"
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