ultimajk
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When in the mud and ruts setting an easy way to go into into extended and super extended mode DEFORE you bottom out would be helpful. Would have got me out of a couple of scrapes last weekend.
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AndrewS
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it all works great once mastered.  Remember there is no 'i' in disco3.co.uk
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| Thu Feb 07 2008 9:54am |
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TiaanS
Joined: 25 May 2007
Location: Pretoria
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ORC1, Excellent news - I applaud your effort to gather real feedback from the user community
I think the TR system is excellent and that LR put a lot of effort and research into designing the TR system
My suggestions on improving the TR system:
1. DSC should be automatically deactivated in sand, mud and Rock modes.
2. As everyone is saying, up the max speed for off-road height.
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| Thu Feb 07 2008 10:26am |
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crustyq
Joined: 29 Dec 2006
Location: derbyshire
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I am one of the few that does not have this option on my d3.I was put off with the air suspension and so I opt for the d3 5dr.
I have driven both machines on and off road and to be fair I do rate the tr system found in the upper mod.
I agree with one of the posts that a fully locking diff is needed,electronics are good but what most l/r buyers need is a clunk under the car to let you know you are not going to get stuck!
The ride height needs to be higher on the fully off road option plus the coil sprung mod needs this to.Could there be an option on the 5dr to have a air mode that pumps up the ride height just for the tricky moments,I know my under tray would love this.
cheers Glyn tie two birds together though they have four wings they cannot fly!!
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| Thu Feb 07 2008 10:27am |
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NoDo$h
Joined: 02 May 2006
Location: wear the fox hat?
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 Ok, how did I miss this?
All of the above..... Generally great, with a couple of exceptions noted below:
With regard to HDC, would it be possible to have an advisory on the info centre recommending HDC is applied, rather than just turning it on when going into mud & ruts etc? I'm getting used to killing it as I engage these programmes, but up until now I know I've not been alone in cursing as I head towards the windscreen the moment my foot comes off the throttle.
DSC is a pain in the backside when you need to get the car shifted over rough terrain (slippy hill climbs are a good example). One bump or pothole and it kills your momentum more effectively than a Charm3 DU round from a Challenger II. Perhaps a stepped intervention based on vehicle speed when in special programmes designed for
On the plus side I find the GGS setting great for fording, where a steady throttle is useful in building and maintaining a decent bow wave. Any changes in the river bed that might cause the car to lurch and might lead to an unwanted surge forward are nicely muted by this setting. Perhaps not what was intended for this programme, but works for me.
An economy mode would be superb. Perhaps mapped to disengage if you have to get "a bit fruity" with the accelerator (above 3,200rpm or thereabouts?), re-engaging once normal use returns would be ideal.
Haven't had to use sand mode for what it's actually designed for 
Ditto rock crawl, so can't really add anything on that.
Away from Terrain Response, my EPB was a disaster but now, on the third attempt at sorting it, seems to be a lot more robust. More work needs to go into the design of this for future models. As noted above, installing it as a transmission lock would appear to be a better solution from a service life perspective, but I appreciate may add to build complexity and servicing costs. Is an internal transmission lock within the output housing a viable solution? If built to a sufficient standard it could be fit and forget for the life of the car, balancing the initial build cost against the whole-life costs for the owner.
And thanks for coming on here and asking the question Carbon footprint? I neither know nor give a damn
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| Thu Feb 07 2008 11:28am |
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robsmith
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Staffordshire
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[quote="NoDo$h
Haven't had to use sand mode for what it's actually designed for
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I thought that was a "launch control" mode  Rob Smith
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| Thu Feb 07 2008 11:37am |
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NoDo$h
Joined: 02 May 2006
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Carbon footprint? I neither know nor give a damn
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| Thu Feb 07 2008 11:57am |
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alltnaha
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
Location: London
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I have 3 concerns :
1 The handbook should set out exactly what the different settings affect ;
2 The off road height max speed is way too low.
3 HDC comes on automatically. I like to manually control descents so have to keep switching it off.
John
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:12pm |
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ThatMartinChap
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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robsmith wrote:[quote="NoDo$h
Haven't had to use sand mode for what it's actually designed for
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I thought that was a "launch control" mode
interesting - I've heard this mentioned a couple of times. Whats the juice with Sand Mode and Launch control ? MY08 TDV6 HSE : Stornoway + Alpaca + Privacy + an Empty Wallet
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:20pm |
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PaulP
Joined: 04 May 2007
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ThatMartinChap wrote:
interesting - I've heard this mentioned a couple of times. Whats the juice with Sand Mode and Launch control ?
Just stick it in Sand Mode at the traffic lights and boot it when the lights turn green.....you'll soon figure it out  2006 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:23pm |
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DG
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NoDo$h wrote:With regard to HDC, would it be possible to have an advisory on the info centre recommending HDC is applied, :
I thought that a magical green glowing icon comes on in the dash ...no ?  Powered by TorqTune
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:23pm |
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ThatMartinChap
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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PaulP wrote:ThatMartinChap wrote:
interesting - I've heard this mentioned a couple of times. Whats the juice with Sand Mode and Launch control ?
Just stick it in Sand Mode at the traffic lights and boot it when the lights turn green.....you'll soon figure it out
cool I'll give that a whirl - I assume it helps you get moving more quickly but - dumb question - how ? MY08 TDV6 HSE : Stornoway + Alpaca + Privacy + an Empty Wallet
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:26pm |
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PaulP
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Location: Barcelona
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ThatMartinChap wrote:
cool I'll give that a whirl - I assume it helps you get moving more quickly but - dumb question - how ?
It works by magic.....(in this case, ORC1's magic). 
Seriously though, you won't really move that much faster, but it'll certainly make your D3 feel very lively.
Have a look in your manual for the TR settings and their effect on throttle response and gearbox mapping (for the auto-box). 2006 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:29pm |
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craig
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: Home of LR.
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Ya need maximum power in sand mode for driving through sand - so if you aint driving through sand, then you get more oomph at the traffic lights unless you've been tuned then you have a maximum  all the time.....
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:30pm |
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heine
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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I know it has been mentioned in a lot of the posts above but maybe the more its said the better the chances of getting it changed . So here goes - the  ride height speed needs to be higher
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| Fri Feb 08 2008 2:35pm |
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