Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
 
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Hello tech gurus! 
I got a persistent "Suspension Warning" today and have been locked at Normal height. 
I just checked the fuse box and the 60A Fusible Link for the Air Suspension has blown. 
Any ideas as to the possible cause??
I'll have to call Perth tomorrow and have some posted down. I'm up there in two weeks for a service and to have the new dampers fitted (if they arrive in time), so I won't be able to have the faultcodes checked until then. (I've got faultmate sv, but it's about as useful as t*ts on a bull!)
TIA  Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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 Mon May 05 2008 1:45pm |
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Rob Bruce
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
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Ahhh  Never thought of fuseable links for the spairs box, seems they would be good to carry.
Jamo, must be a short circuit somewhere, wire rubbed through touching somewhere 
Worth a look before attempting a temprey repair 
Havent looked at the fuse page but usually fuseable links are fairly high amperage and it takes a major short circuit to blow.
Rob
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| Mon May 05 2008 2:11pm |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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I'll have to check out the compressor tonight.
I've been told most similar such failures are due to the compressor failure. This ones ~100,000km old, but I would have expected it to last longer than that. Hopefully I can find a chafed wire as a new compressor is $1,080. Or maybe there's a dirt build up.
I was hoping someone here may have experienced a similar issue with shorting of the compressor loom. Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Tue May 06 2008 8:07am |
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caverD3
Joined: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
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Jamo
Was the compressor chasnged at the 'ehancement program"?
If not you may have valid claim for new one, known issue with early build. Getting there is half the fun
TDV6: Adaptive Headlights, Electronic Rear Diff.ARB Bar.Blaupunkt speakers, JVC powered Subwoofer, Removable Snorkel, Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch.
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| Tue May 06 2008 8:39am |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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Hello Caver,
Mine had the original build compressor, which completely died at the end of 2005. I had it replaced under warranty with the third build compressor, which I believe is the current one. So when i had the enhancement, this should already have been enhanced so to speak. 
I'm taking the side rail off tonight to check the compressor out. I've got a suspicion that there may be some corrosion from when I got stuck in a lake just before christmas. Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Tue May 06 2008 12:34pm |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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Oh well!
The slider's off and there's no visible problem with the comressor or loom thereon. The connectors all looked clean, but I cleaned them again. So signs of corrosion anywhere.
So it's either a one-off  or the compressor's stuffed internally  or there's a problem elsewhere water in the loom maybe or a shorting sensor? Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Tue May 06 2008 1:24pm |
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catweasel
Joined: 05 May 2006
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have you tested anywhere with a meter and is the link 10E. maybe check from the dead side of the link to earth with the relay removed from the BJB and then from the relay base (pin 1) to earth and see what you get.
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| Tue May 06 2008 2:56pm |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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Hello Catweasel,
I'm a bit uneducated when it comes to vehicle electrics.
What does 10E mean?
Do you mean remove the R7 relay?
My meter tests volts, but is too low reading for amps. Do I need an amp meter? Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Tue May 06 2008 3:41pm |
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catweasel
Joined: 05 May 2006
Location: ?????
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to read amps you would need to include the meter in the cct and this is not neccesary anyway , volts will do fine. according to the cct diags, 10e is the link in question. will send you something in the mail 
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| Tue May 06 2008 3:45pm |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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Thanks! Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Tue May 06 2008 3:50pm |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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catweasel wrote:have you tested anywhere with a meter and is the link 10E. maybe check from the dead side of the link to earth with the relay removed from the BJB and then from the relay base (pin 1) to earth and see what you get.
I checked and it was all 0.00/0.01 volts from the dead side of the link to earth and from the socket for Pin 1 on the relay.
The other side of the link showed 12.54V off and 14.54V on at idle. same with the one of the other plugs for the relay.
Does this mean anything?? Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Wed May 07 2008 7:11am |
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catweasel
Joined: 05 May 2006
Location: ?????
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unfortunately no it means it seems to be in order which might suggest something has gone pop. does the compressor smell a bit like when an electric motor has burnt out or are the bearings ok.
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| Wed May 07 2008 9:36am |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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I hope it's not the compressor, but it's certainly looking that way.
I couldn't smell anything anf didn't pull it apart so don't know about the bearings.
The new fusible links should be here tomorrow. I'll put one in and see what happens.
I'll be disappointed if it's the compressor (particularly since I'm out of warranty and will have to shell out myself). It's the upgraded build and should surely last longer than 100000km. When i rang the dealer to get the links sent down, the foreman said the only ones that had burnt the link where ones where the owner had used the compressor housing as a jacking point.
Oh well, cest la vie! Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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| Wed May 07 2008 1:19pm |
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catweasel
Joined: 05 May 2006
Location: ?????
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if the motor has burnt out, look at getting it rewound as it sounds like it would be cheaper than a new one but lets see what happens first with the new links . might be an idea to have a second set of eyes and ears when you fire it up to hear for pops etc.
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| Wed May 07 2008 1:49pm |
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Jamo
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 955
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I managed to get faultmate working.
It gave me a 'Short circuit to ground or open" fault on the suspension. Doesn't mean much.
Interestingly there were also four intermittent short circuits recorded on the CJB. Have a nice day!
2005 HSE TDV6 HDVH with: ARB Bar, winch with dynamica rope, kaymar twin wheel carrier, 245/70R17 STT's (bush), 265/60R18 HT+ (town), 110l aux fuel tank, satphone, uhf, raised air intake, cargo barrier, ipf xs900 spotlights, frontrunner roofrack, meridian AHR baby seat, rear diff lock, premium satnav, dual batteries, Offroving rock sliders; and just about all the niggles ironed out.
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