Zilch
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Question from the Dark side, either this or next weekend i am going to have a run to Stockton with the Sport, it currently runs standard footwear which are the Goodyear Wrangler HP AW's (255/55/18's). Anyone done Stockton in their D3 with standard tyres, and how low could you safely go in terms of pressure , 16-20 PSI ?? without constantly throwing or knackering a tyre !!
Cheers
Jim
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dukemasterpro
Joined: 04 Feb 2007
Location: Sydney
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| Re: Stockton Beach on Standard Tyres |
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Zilch wrote:Question from the Dark side, either this or next weekend i am going to have a run to Stockton with the Sport, it currently runs standard footwear which are the Goodyear Wrangler HP AW's (255/55/18's). Anyone done Stockton in their D3 with standard tyres, and how low could you safely go in terms of pressure , 16-20 PSI ?? without constantly throwing or knackering a tyre !!
Cheers
Jim
You should be alright, did it 4 times in a D3 with 18"'s and same tyres without any probs even with a full complement of passengers. It's all down to how you drive and tyre pressure. Must the first time without tuition we did get stuck but after that it was all fine.
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ianv
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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How low with the tyres?
I've run mine down to 8lb front 10lb rear to show off in sand, 15/18 is ok, if you run them around 18/20 you have a lot of leeway to drop them right down if you get stuck, std wranglers are pretty good in sand as they bag out nicely. Take care of the sidewalls though as they are thin, avoid pushing through scrub etc.
Have fun!
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Zilch
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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DMP, Ian, thanks very much, Sand mode and 15/18 and a sensible approach, apart from the begging from fellow 4wder's to recover me now and then.. Cheers  best not ask for a snatch, i might get a smack, especially from the wife 
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WayneD
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Sydney
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You should have a great day. There are plenty of people to get you out of trouble. I ran my tyres at 18 psi but a coulpe of the guys had to go down to 12 psi to get up some of the hills. The range Rover Club is doing a trip there on the 31st May for beginners if you happen to be there that weekend tune in to UHF 19.
Standard tyres can be better than AT tyres as they tend not to build up a wall of sand in front.
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LeighW
Joined: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane
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Zilch, whilst I haven't had the experience of requiring DSC being turned off to improve traction there is a lot of discussion in other areas of this site. (Hint: Do a search on DSC) but to quote another poster with knowledge that is not toatally relevant (unless you strike snow at Stockton) but still pertinent...
opodden wrote:My advise on hills is: Go slow at first with DSC and snow/ ice setting on. If it doesn't work, reverse down, switch off DSC, switch to sand setting and try to carry more speed.
HTH, Leigh (envious of your chance to do Stockton)
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Drive cosy
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
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The D3 is the first car with DSC I've driven on sand. One thing I will say is you can feel the momentum getting sucked right out with DSC on. Even the manual recommends DSC off.
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Bushwanderer
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
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In my one and only visit to Stockton Beach, as part of a LR club training course, I carefully read my manual & was confused. I asked the instructor to read the relevant bit & advise me. He, also was confused by the wording.
In retrospect, I may have been better off with DSC disabled, but have no evidence to support this view.
Best Wishes,
Peter
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Zilch
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Sydney-ish via High Wycombe
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I have had to switch DSC off even on an incline with very loose mud and some small rocks to negotiate, the alternative was to sit there whilst the vehicle wound down the power, just because one or two wheels were getting hung up. Will most probably go with DSC off
Thanks All
Jim
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Drive cosy
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
Location: Sydney
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The engine and gearbox are already working hard enough in sand. Why add brakes fighting the gearbox to the equation? 
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hernan1304
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Can't speak to your beach but I'm driving in the soft sands of the desert around Dubai on the standard 19" tyres with absolutely no problems. I take them down to 18psi - looks awful, like you're going to get a pinch flat as soon as you start moving, but I've had no issues so far and the tyres have actually done a fantastic job on sand.
I'd say turn DSC off - you can feel it killing your momentum, and it usually kicks in at the worst times (ie when you're in the softest sand trying not to get stuck, and/or when you ARE stuck and trying to get unstuck). Remember you still have traction control (which cannot be disabled) to save you if you try to do anything VERY stupid.
Make sure that when you're aired down you don't try to turn quickly at high(ish) speeds - that's the best way to drive off the rims. If you keep it in a straight line and make your steering smooth you'll be much better off.
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