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Hobgoblin
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: Shropshire
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Dropped my car at the stealers last night, spoke to them 16:30 today to see if they found out what was wrong with it, they said it had 5 pages of fault codes logged  reset the codes then went for a test drive, thought they had fixed it by just clearing the codes as he said sometimes this will do  They took it for a longer test drive and sure enough, Bong, transmission fault, limited gears, special programs off, suspension fault, lowering suspension, EPB fault, HDC fault, DSC fault  was informed that it is now connected to the machine to see if they can find the fault,  they've had it all F  ing day
Anyone been told about 5 pages of fault codes and can simply clearing the codes cure the problem I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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 Tue May 13 2008 5:58pm |
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NoDo$h
Joined: 02 May 2006
Location: Dodging peanuts
Posts: 5718
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Only if I supply them with a false ID, giving my date of birth as 12th May 2008  wd40 has lubrication properties similar to spit. And what's good enough for the girls......  Going, going...... Gone!
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| Tue May 13 2008 6:53pm |
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SteveNorman
Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 69
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Hi,
The problem with the D3 is the plethora of fault codes that can be listed, caused by a multitude of reasons.
You only need to leave the keys in the ignition, which may lower the battery voltage to set a CAN communication code in most control modules.
Most fault codes generate a snap shot of the fault, when it happened etc, this can aid fault diagnosis. The problem is, most Technicians have a very limited amount of time to find the fault, & can't spend forever chasing dead ends. This is the reason they reset all codes, then test drive & see what comes back. Bear in mind Landrover pay very little to the dealer for diagnosis, so time is of the essence, rightly or wrongly.
I would suggest most D3's have a dozen or more fault codes stored all the time, most of which cause no stmptoms & very limited problems, or may co-incide to an event you may have noticed a couple of months ago, like that rare non start, which when you tried a second time it started OK.
That said if you have warning messages etc, then these are usually more prominent codes which can usually be acted on.
I try to read codes, snapshot data, & descriptions to try to build up a idea of which codes are common & when they are important, for example, I find weak key signal in virtually every code read I do, but the owner hasn't had a problem.
To answer your question, a reset of codes will never 'cure' a problem, but may make it easier to find on subsequent interrogation.
HTH
Regards
Steve
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| Tue May 13 2008 9:33pm |
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shiny moose
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Location: Capital of Mercia
Posts: 982
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This is what worries me with the D3, there is probably a small wiring fault somewhere and it the whole thing up with not a chance of finding out yourself.
The best of luck. Silver TDV6 S with sat nav, PTI and Moosed up a bit
"PROGRESS IS MANS ABILITY TO COMPLICATE SIMPLICITY"
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| Tue May 13 2008 9:35pm |
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flinty99
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Durham
Posts: 124
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SteveNorman wrote:like that rare non start, which when you tried a second time it started OK.
I wish this was rare on mine. It happens at least one a week. Its been in the dealers on a number of occasions and they can never find the route cause.
Any suggestions I should give them?
Its in again on Thursday to a different service centre for its first year service, so any advise is welcome.
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| Tue May 13 2008 10:43pm |
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Hobgoblin
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 435
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Thanks for your replies chaps 
Steve N, that makes a lot of sense I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| Tue May 13 2008 11:08pm |
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SteveNorman
Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 69
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Best thing to try is use the spare/other key for a few weeks, if all OK you know it's a key issue. If the same then it's a car issue.
When you take it in ask them what fault codes are found relating to non start?
Regards
Steve
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| Wed May 14 2008 6:13am |
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flinty99
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Durham
Posts: 124
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Cheers Steve - I will do just that.
I have tried both keys so I', sure its more car side.
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| Wed May 14 2008 1:25pm |
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Hobgoblin
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 435
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Had a phone call from the stealer earlier, the techie has been working on it most of the day but can't find what the problem is, they spoke to LR and were advised to take it for a test drive with the computer plugged in, so off they went for 20 miles and couldn't recreate the fault, my question to them was, surely if you had the fault code yesterday you should know what the fault is his reply was that after clearing the codes again they couldn't recreate it  , he asked me if it would be ok for the techie to take it home tonight with the comp plugged in, I said alright providing he parks it somewhere safe, he then said that if the fault didn't show itself they would have to take for a longer test drive tomorrow  so I asked him that what was the point in them driving around in my car using my diesel I can do that  then suggested I'll call them in the morning and if they still don't know what the fault is I'll come and get it and if the fault shows I will drive it into them with the fault showing, he said that may be a good idea so it would seem the long and short of it is that they don't have a f ing clue I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| Wed May 14 2008 6:29pm |
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shiny moose
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Location: Capital of Mercia
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which particular Stealer are you using, I will add them to my list of ones to avoid. Silver TDV6 S with sat nav, PTI and Moosed up a bit
"PROGRESS IS MANS ABILITY TO COMPLICATE SIMPLICITY"
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| Wed May 14 2008 9:42pm |
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Hobgoblin
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 435
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Shukers Shrewsbury, or should that be phukers I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| Wed May 14 2008 9:45pm |
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shiny moose
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Location: Capital of Mercia
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oh dear - I was preparing to move my business there from the idiots in Wolverhampton. 
Is there any dealer worth going to ? Silver TDV6 S with sat nav, PTI and Moosed up a bit
"PROGRESS IS MANS ABILITY TO COMPLICATE SIMPLICITY"
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| Wed May 14 2008 10:01pm |
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SteveNorman
Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
Posts: 69
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It is always advisable to printout all faultcodes beforing clearing, & at least look at the relevant sections
Best you do as you say, you drive it, take it straight back after the fault has occured.
As for which dealer? Most would follow this route, rightly or wrongly. 
Regards
Steve
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| Thu May 15 2008 6:35am |
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Hobgoblin
Joined: 15 Nov 2007
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 435
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I was going to ask them if they would give me a copy of the printout. I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| Thu May 15 2008 8:28am |
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willie_ekerslyke
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Location: Hertfordshire
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I've been getting this on mine for a few months now. Spoke to my dealers, they reckon its low voltage. ie battery issues and to be fair it usually happens if its been sitting around or not used on a long run for a while.
I plan to get them to replace the battery before the warrenty runs out
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| Fri May 23 2008 11:17am |
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