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Off road novices tyre review AT2s and MTRs
Guys,
As most of you know i have been chewing my way through a few MTRS lately , however this is probably not down to the tyre, just my inability to read a trail correctly.
What i thought i would do is give a quick newcomers review into my findings of tyres i have used to date and my opinions.
Obviously im no expert but may be usefull for the guys on here who are looking at options in 18 and 19" tyre sizes..cant comment on 17"s as i havent got any yet
MTRS
Merits
Fabulous traction in very muddy conditions, vehicle doesnt "fishtail" in extremely wet and muddy conditions.
Looks fantastic...gives the D3 a real presence
Exellent vehicle control when either climbing steep muddy slopes on on side slopes...minimal lateral movement.
Very hard wearing
Downsides
Significantly Increased road noise and decreased mpg.
Weak sidewalls due to low profile? (probably my bad driving )
Reduced levels of grip on wet rocks and flint.
Only real mud tread tyre available on 19" rims therefore nothing to compare to in the same size.
Handling not as sure footed on the road.
Limited supply/Price.
AT2s
Merits
No increase in road noise compared to standard road tyres.
MPG maybe 1-2 miles down on standard.
Good "all round" traction in most situations...probably does not get top marks in mud plugging, traveling over rocks, side wall strength but would probably score 8/10 in most cases.
Price.
Downsides
Lack of control in very muddy situations.
Tyres do not self clean as well as MTRs in mud, therefore loose a bit of purchase in sticky stuff.
Slight degredation of handling vs road tyres but better than MTRs
Dont look as "butch" as mtrs.
Summary
In my brief time of using the D3 off road i have been impressed with both sets of tyres i have used, however the AT2s are a recent addition so ill leave them on for a while and use them in a few more situations to give a comparison.
If i were limited to 1 tyre fits all then as a all round package i would go down the AT2 route every time, however if you spend your time in mostly muddy areas then the MTR would be 1st choice.
My only concern with MTRS is durability, i know lots of guys have run them with no issues, but i have lost a bit of confidence in them for the time being, the last thing i want to be worrying about is if im going to get another puncture, rather than concentrating on the driving.
Venues used for analysis
Boughrood
Peaks
Lakes
Salisbury Plain
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26th May 2008 7:20 pm
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Cheers Steve, that was very informative.Club Exped trailer
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26th May 2008 7:55 pm
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Re: Off road novices tyre review AT2s and MTRs
So ...let's recap on the evidence
discocuzzy wrote:
MTR's .................. i know lots of guys have run them with no issues
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DC do I need to bring any tyres to the Pub meet
26th May 2008 7:59 pm
discocuzzy
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Richard ...i knew you would give me stick
Its not meant to be a" this is whats best" thread just a bit of info based on my limited experience.
Ken...No need this week for a change!!! "you cannot teach stupid people to do clever things"
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26th May 2008 8:03 pm
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Re: Off road novices tyre review AT2s and MTRs
discocuzzy wrote:
Dont look as "butch" as mtrs, in fact they look gay
Bit harsh about the AT's there chapIn the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
26th May 2008 8:07 pm
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Only Gay if you have six or less
26th May 2008 8:09 pm
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discocuzzy wrote:
Richard ...i knew you would give me stick
Whaaatt ?? ....sometimes you just have to cut away the all the crap to get to the facts 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
26th May 2008 8:12 pm
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26th May 2008 8:25 pm
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dc I'd have taken you out in the Boughrood mud Sunday for more MTR experience but you were looking a teenie weenie bit green around the gills!
27th May 2008 8:52 am
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That will have been the strong continental lager and BCBs nasty spirits!"you cannot teach stupid people to do clever things"
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58 plate D3 HSE Silver- Gone
10 Plate D4 HSE Stornaway Grey
27th May 2008 9:18 am
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27th May 2008 9:38 am
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We have both the MT/R and the AT2 in stock, coming very soon is the new Kumho KL71 in 265/70x17.
Two sets of used 17" D3 wheels available @ £100.00 plus VAT (set) www.ajstyres.co.uk
29th May 2008 7:44 am
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Hi Andy ,
what are you looking for a set of Kumhos delivered UK (midlands) ?
29th May 2008 8:24 am
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We are being told the end of June but have had these little stories before, I would think July would be a safer bet, price will not be available till they arrive in the U.K.
We have some very intresting news on the KL71, watch this space. www.ajstyres.co.uk
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, however this is probably not down to the tyre, just my inability to read a trail correctly.
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...i knew you would give me stick 
