denny crane
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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There is a lot of discussions going on between the guys with management cars, all HSE's who change theirs every three months. The latest batch do seem to have a lower MPG, around 25-27, could be the build and parts making the individual differences....
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Sun Jun 22 2008 7:28pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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Could be they are not quite run in denny... post 1st service the D3 does indeed increase its MPG figure. MY2008 is much better at sipping diesel than previous MY's were.
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Sun Jun 22 2008 9:32pm |
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Valleyforge
Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Location: Westmorland actually
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As an experiment for a couple of days I tried the TopGear TopTip - & switched off the aircon, front, rear, & the cubby cooler. Result - mpg rose from 27.4 to 30.9, not bad. And thats pretty much for same journeys, same speeds etc.
Worth bearing in mind until of course the great British summer actually arrives. I liked my D2, but my D3's better ....
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Wed Jun 25 2008 9:17am |
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warrior22
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
Location: All over the soddin' place!
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I don't use the air con unless it's a hot day, rarely use the cubby cooler, and have experimentally driven like a fanny to try and raise my mpg. Never been higher than 24.7. Have MTR's on, but mpg was still the same with oe tyres. Don't think anything other than a TorqTune will help, so will have to get that organised.! Don't be paranoid.........'They' don't like it!!!!!!!
Currently: Land Rover
Previously: Other Land Rovers
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Wed Jun 25 2008 4:12pm |
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Slimer
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Climate control always on, cubby cooler always on, MTRs always on, averaged 29.8MPG over the last 14,000 miles   
Not so common...
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Wed Jun 25 2008 4:20pm |
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roamingman
Joined: 25 Jun 2008
Location: aberdeenshire
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we got are Discovery january. After one trip to garage two visits from land rover assist, three times cleared computor, back to garage to clear computor againe then in second time fitted new fual filtter. back to new garage after 5 days while they spoke to land rover they fitted new fual pump.
After 2 weeks seems to be ok.
We now get up to 34.8 mpg it was 30.9
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Wed Jun 25 2008 7:08pm |
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AVE
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
Location: In the land of the Superlambanana
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roamingman
You don't seem to be having much luck with your D3! Hope it is sorted out now and you can look forward to happy motoring! Disco 3 TDV6 HSE
Mini Cooper
Previous car: Disco 2 V8
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Wed Jun 25 2008 8:08pm |
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BLFarrar
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, darkest Halifax, West Yorkshire
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Jim R wrote:Within a 1000 miles of it being added it makes a noticeable difference to the MPG and my experience with other cars is that it adds great protection........
Jim
I too have tried Slick 50 - some years ago on petrol engined vehicles....unless you are doing repeat journeys that are comparable periods its difficult to gauge improvement or detriment if any I got little or no advantage in either MPG or performance.
Its a bit like the "KIng's invisible Clothes" - imaginary
At first I took the claims Slick 50 made as viable.....but I now doubt the ability of this additive to adhere Teflon to any metal surface....If you have worked on industrial Teflon coating process the first requisite is the metal surfaces are scrupulously clean & oil free. In those days there were others with similar claims Rocol had an additive with molybdenum di-sulphide, STP claimed to modify the nature of oil & reduce oil consumption (it was like adding treacle), Wynn's did similar products. BP even launched special oils with a viscosity intended to save fuel....it may my Volvo 240 B21E engine sound like a bag of spanners & was very quickly refilled by the dealers doing the service supporting the warranty.
Other products have appeared from other countries Nulon from Australia, MotorUp from the states....the way these products were sold - direct TV advertising demonstrated the incredible claims in a series of stunts - engines run drained of oil etc.
I would agree with other who have written in this thread that if Slick50 claims were viable it would be a component of regular motor oil....you can get the same effect by using a good quality synthetic lubricant as per the oil specification for the TDV6 engine. You gauge the long term effect in the longevity of the engine.......burning oil, compressions & destruction of camshafts & turbochargers. You pay your money & take your choice. ....have Disco3 HSE TD6 Auto...
....also S Type 2.7 Auto....
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Wed Jun 25 2008 9:59pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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BLFarrar wrote:...you can get the same effect by using a good quality synthetic lubricant as per the oil specification for the TDV6 engine.
exactly.
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Thu Jun 26 2008 1:12am |
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stapldm
Joined: 11 Sep 2006
Location: In a queue for diesel
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Valleyforge wrote:As an experiment for a couple of days I tried the TopGear TopTip...
I too tried this, and was suprised to find no apparent difference whatsoever. I unplugged all accessory sockets, aircon off (not just economy) and yet it paid no dividends. On the plus side that means I can keep the aircon on full time and it won't cost me anything, being apparently powered by some mystical perpetual energy source Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Terry Pratchett, Discworld
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Thu Jun 26 2008 1:14pm |
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tanters
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Location: Up The Deise!
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[quote="stapldm" being apparently powered by some mystical perpetual energy source [/quote]
Do you have a Flux Capacitor perhaps....surely the ultimate mod
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Thu Jun 26 2008 2:20pm |
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Valleyforge
Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Location: Westmorland actually
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stapldm wrote:Valleyforge wrote:As an experiment for a couple of days I tried the TopGear TopTip...
I too tried this, and was suprised to find no apparent difference whatsoever. I unplugged all accessory sockets, aircon off (not just economy) and yet it paid no dividends. On the plus side that means I can keep the aircon on full time and it won't cost me anything, being apparently powered by some mystical perpetual energy source 
Well, after telling all & sundry about this I turned everything back on last night on the way home - MPG stayed at 30+
It is perishing at the mo though, maybe the aircon don't work so hard when its cold. (but I don't think so).
More welly needed. MPG thingy now turned off. I liked my D2, but my D3's better ....
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Thu Jun 26 2008 2:33pm |
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BLFarrar
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, darkest Halifax, West Yorkshire
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Hollywood LR3 wrote:How about this http://www.waterfuelexpert.com 
if you have a good look this subject was done to death a while ago.....water steam injection there were some early systems (60's 70's) some recent new technology similar systems are on sale but not mainstream acceptance or take up
Interesting website & links......thanks for those ....have Disco3 HSE TD6 Auto...
....also S Type 2.7 Auto....
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Thu Jun 26 2008 7:05pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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I think the whole D3 engine and drive train system along with the aircon system were design together and thus the actual drain on power is kept at a minimum.
I think
I too have noticed absolutely no benefit in running the system in the ECON setting.
The only sure fire way to save fuel in the D3 AFAIK is to use a gentle throttle, stay below 75MPH (where legal of course) and NOT use cruise control... use your senses to keep the power just right. Also utilise the torque band at around 1800 to 2500 revs. Cruise at 2K revs and your range goes up as the trip goes up
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Thu Jun 26 2008 7:19pm |
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