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12V power socket in boot - permanent live
Reading other threads it sounds like identifying the permanent live in the vicinity is straightforward enough so had a look at getting behind the trim there and have no idea where to start.
Any pointers on what bits of trim to remove/how to go about it before i start breaking things please
1st Jul 2008 10:54 am
wiggs
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Do you want to make the existing socketlive or add another one ?G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
1st Jul 2008 11:14 am
jonnyboy
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Make the existing one live will suffice. Want to run a cold box for camping without having the key in. (Have one of those cut-outs which stops the battery voltage going too low)
Saw your other post Wiggs about which wire to use, just can't figure out how to get the panels off to get to the rear of the socket and wires
1st Jul 2008 12:51 pm
wiggs
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pull the rubber surround off the edge of the panel and then pull the panel from the bit were there is now a gap ..
it will come out enough for you to get behind.To remove the whole panel is a lot more work
i will take a picture for you ...G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
1st Jul 2008 12:58 pm
wiggs
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pull of this rubber
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pull out the trim here
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enough to get your had in
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back of ciggy lighter ..with yellow / orange connector
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a little tip ..i put a rubber mallet in the gap to keep it open
Remove the rear cubby access door and you can then reach the plug you have disconnected.
i just leave the plug off ..find a live from the towing electrics , put a crimp on and push it on the ciggy plug .
do the same with an earth ..plenty on earth nuts just inside thereG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
1st Jul 2008 1:17 pm
jonnyboy
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Nice one wiggs!! Appreciated
1st Jul 2008 1:44 pm
DaveT
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Excellent - I was just about to ask the same question .
So, how long can a fridge run on the standard battery?
& how do I make the centre ciggy lighter permanent live?
Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
SIII Lightweight - neglected & rusting. Bulkhead, A panels, vent panel & outriggers now disintegrated - Next years project!
1st Jul 2008 7:28 pm
Neil Pettersen
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DaveT wrote:
So, how long can a fridge run on the standard battery?
If you intend to use the one and only battery ......... it could be too weak to start a diesel motor
in as little as 6 hours on a hot day with a 60 litre fridge on 4 centrigrade.
It's much wiser to install a second battery for the system.
A major electrical problem with D3's is CANBus faults with low voltage , when you come to start it up ....... you really don't want to go there !
2nd Jul 2008 9:44 am
jonnyboy
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Wiggs,
The trim pops off just like your pictures. Off to buy a rubber mallet to hold it open
Couple more questions....
Any idea what size crimp and cable to use. Having a scout round maplin.co.uk and there are loads of both to choose. Cheers again
Dave T - The trim around the power socket in the back of the cubby box justs pop off getting you to the rear of the socket. Guess it would be a case of locating a permanant live in that area and aplying the same principle as above.
2nd Jul 2008 10:04 am
wiggs
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i used the blue ones as they accept a wire between 1.1mm and 2.6 mm
I used some 2mm wire i had lying around ( standard wiring according to wiring diagram is 1.5mm)G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
2nd Jul 2008 2:16 pm
jonnyboy
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Wiggs - perfect and again many thanks. Been to Maplin this lunch and now have the kit to do some damage - they were out of rubber mallets though....
To Neil's point on the voltage, have one of these that cuts out the feed as the battery drains to 11.6V. Anyone used one or know if its going to give problems.
Not too keen at getting the beer to 4C (prefer bitter at room temperature) but keen to get a few hours cooling each day to keep the milk fresh and the butter semi-solid. Looked at the second battery option but this seemed a more suitable option for a few days camping each year.
Cheers
John
3rd Jul 2008 2:59 pm
wiggs
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jonnyboy wrote:
they were out of rubber mallets though....
G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
3rd Jul 2008 3:04 pm
jonnyboy
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Just to close this topic for completeness so if anyone is searching in future....
There is a 4 pin plug ..3 wires in there ..yellow , green and purple (thick wires)
Purple is the 12v constant supply...
Make sure when you are checking the earth from the stud fixed to the car you are actually touching the stud or the car frame ..not the actual nut ..its not conductive.
The above courtesy of Wiggs - hope you don't mind. May save you answering the question for another numpty like me - assuming they have the nouse to search
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