robsmith
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Staffordshire
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After the youngester being killed at Christmas on a quad running into a Range ove we now have another one dying after hitting a car:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/taysid...491011.stm
This time the youngster ran into an Astra, not exactly the largest car on the road and died as a result 
When will parents learn that these small bikes and quads are an accident in waiting? And the short lived debate between one of these machines and a car is very one sided for the rider. Rob Smith
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Ken
Joined: 20 Feb 2006
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Sorry dissagree These bikes are fine when used correctly and supervised
On the road is plain wrong, The Nanny state is bad enough at the mo but this will lead to more calls of ban them etc. Once again the acts of the stupid will effect us all. Shes gotta go soon http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic24282.html
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 10:54am |
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Pelyma
Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Clymping, Sussex
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My lad shoots, that is pretty dangerous - but not dangerous at all (except for what he shoots at) if I teach and supervise him. Guns aren't toys and neither are quads. DS3 TDV6 HSE
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Joined: 06 May 2005
Location: Earth
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My kids have had all sorts of bikes, quads, buggy's and have raced motocross. They have never hit a car because they always use a proper training facility's or the local kind farmers field. If these people allow their children to ride in public places accidents are bound to happen. For use of a 4x4 site and driver training pm me 
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 3:51pm |
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Reggieb
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Watford, Herts.
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Very sad.
But as Ken says, we don't need more legislation and bureaucracy. A sensible approach with adequate supervision is whats required.
This isn't always achievable in some areas I admit due to the fact that parents either don't know or don't care what their offspring are up to  TDV6 HSE - Light Guards - White Reflective Sticker & that something extra
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 4:51pm |
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SN
Joined: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Doing the Lambeth Walk
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Agree - common sense and decent parenting is all that is required to stop these tragedies.
Sadly this country is losing these in bucket loads right now and has been for years 
And so the Nanny State has to legislate to mitigate  Steve N | 2006 TDV6 S Auto in Buckingham Blue | Member of the top ten club | Am I online?
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DSL
Joined: 11 May 2006
Location: In the Dog House!
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Once had a kid come onto the roundabout straight for me on a scooter with an engine type thingie on the back. I kept going to where I was going to go to (and signalling for) as otherwise I would have had to drive into the barrier to avoid him. Luckily for him he had enough grip to avoid me, I wasn't going to put myself at risk because of his moronic driving. Honda Dog U better DUCK!!!!!
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 7:41pm |
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MX
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Capital of Culture
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Am I wrong in that I find it extremely hard to feel sympathy for those involved?
Parents go out and buy these things - or know their kids are using them inappropriately - and somehow everyone else is supposed to avoid their little treasures when using the road perfectly legally.
As far as I am concerned, every quad, moto-x bike, monkey bike, motorised scooter or car being used on public roads illegally (or pn public space illegally too) should be removed, crushed, the rider fined or jailed, and if under 17 the parents fined or jailed as well.
Nanny state isnt in it ........ these morons dont care in the slightest so lock the  up. D3 05 SE (old one)
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JMC
Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Location: Aberdeen-Angus. Where the Bull* comes from!
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MX wrote:Am I wrong in that I find it extremely hard to feel sympathy for those involved?
Perhaps...... 
I wouldn't find it hard to feel sympathy for any parent who has lost a child no matter what the circumstances. However, once the feeling of loss has been overcome, the stupidity will be more difficult to change and will probably remain. The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 9:24pm |
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DG
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
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We were all young once 
...we all climbed trees.... we all ran across the motorway or train tracks ...we all road bikes like there was no other traffic on the road ....we all took a ride with our mates motor too fast and with too many in it....we all smoked, drank and tried drugs.
In the process ....some of us died ...some of us didn't Powered by............................
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Pelyma
Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Clymping, Sussex
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I feel sympathy for their loss as ultimately their mistakes will live with them forever. We have all made mistakes, sometimes we get away with it sometimes we don't. What it isn't is a reason to ban anything. DS3 TDV6 HSE
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 10:08pm |
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SN
Joined: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Doing the Lambeth Walk
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DG wrote:...we all climbed trees
Yep - everyone did that
DG wrote:.... we all ran across the motorway or train tracks
Only train tracks - but often stopped and 'placed stuff' for experimental means
DG wrote:...we all rode bikes like there was no other traffic on the road
Yep
DG wrote:....we all took a ride with our mates too fast and with too many in the motor
Yep - even when their accelerator cable jammed wide open 
DG wrote:....we all smoked, drank and tried drugs.
Drank only - twas a goody two shoes:thumbsup:
DG wrote:In the process ....some of us died ...some of us didn't
but those that survived learned a lot and are more rounded humans for it Steve N | 2006 TDV6 S Auto in Buckingham Blue | Member of the top ten club | Am I online?
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AVE
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
Location: In the land of the Superlambanana
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Yes... I climbed trees, ran across train tracks etc and I'm still here to tell the tail. (Although if my folks had found out about the train tracks, they'd have probably killed me anyway!)
But the parents who buy these bikes and allow their kids to ride them on public roads or park areas must take some responsibility for their actions... Unfortunately for some, it results in their child being seriously injured or even worse. Disco 3 TDV6 HSE
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 10:42pm |
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DG
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
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AVE I know what you mean ..but I don't think for one minute that when they handed over the £500 for the bike that they thought that the machine would ultimately be involved with the death of their child ...whether they are as thick as dogshit or not ...nobody wants that Powered by............................
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| Sun Jul 06 2008 11:08pm |
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simon
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
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Well you have to a bit thick giving a 'toy' like that to your kids and then letting them loose on the public roads with it. Supervised or not. You Just don't do it. Period.
FFS, I won't even let my little one ride her bike on the road round here... let alone something with an engine
Too many kids in their Saxo's and Corsa's playing 'I can drive faster than you when I'm up' around.
I think Darwinism springs to mind.
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