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garryc
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
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Just got back after 5 weeks to Cape York and back. Did Gunshot, CREB and Zigzag. Got stuck  temporarily in Nolan Creek with water half way up doors, wheels turning but not much traction. Feet started to get wet  (thinks "golly, this is getting serious") but was able to reverse out and cross about 2 metres to the left OK  Others got caught and filled with water.  Next day got "suspension error" (orange light) and Faultmate said "front left sensor slow". Went away the next day but returned after another water crossing. EPB was OK until we went through very soft sand a few days later and I got the brakes jammed on and the screaming. Still screams sometimes. Anyone got advice on how to fix that problem?? Will post pics soon. regards garryc S White, TdV6, air suspension, 110ltr Long Range tank, Kaymar wheel carrier, aux. battery, adjustable cargo barrier, LR snorkel(waterproofed), reversing and front camera, Cooper tyres and tyre sensors, Codan NGT. VKS-737 Sierra2367
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garryc
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 121
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Must add more. I fitted Cooper STT's on 17x8" steel rims. The STT's smallest size was 245 profile whereas the ATR's were 235. They bring my speedo to almost spot on according to my GPS. However with the TJM bullbar fitted I cannot use access mode and in standard mode on any bumps or dips the tyres contact the edge of the bullbar. With the exposed air suspension cable when the bar was fitted which I made a protection plate for(they didn't think it was a problem) and the large hole in the lower part of the bar where rocks and sticks could damage the radiator(again I put some heavy mesh over that) I'm beginning to think that I should go with the other brand.  S White, TdV6, air suspension, 110ltr Long Range tank, Kaymar wheel carrier, aux. battery, adjustable cargo barrier, LR snorkel(waterproofed), reversing and front camera, Cooper tyres and tyre sensors, Codan NGT. VKS-737 Sierra2367
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| Fri Aug 22 2008 8:02am |
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Bodsy
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow.....
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On the EPB, sounds like you need to take off the rear brake disks & clean out the EPB drums, then just adjust it all back up again. I have a ZIP file of instructions I can mail to you if you e-mail me (instructions courtesy of Wiggs of course as well as TFC's EPB adjsutment post  )  it! It's got a load of black bits on OK!!!
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| Fri Aug 22 2008 8:57am |
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ianv
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Murrumbateman
Posts: 286
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Hi Garry,
Firstly thanks for the flinders pics etc,
Glad to hear you did not get stuck badly, Anne and I are planning to go up there this time next year, and then across the savannah way to Broome and back via the tanami and Alice. Fuel budget looks fierce but possible.
Easies way to clean out those brakes is to jack it up and support with axle stands then follow bodsy's instructions, and your manuals. Sometimes you can clear them with a road speed application, say at 40km/hr.
After you mentioned where your air line was I checked and mine are further back, behind the lower edge of the radiator, it's possible when my ARB bar went on that they were tucked away and cable tied by the fitter, thanks top gear Alice Springs.
Been coming to Adelaide a bit with work, will drop you a line next time I am doing more than a fly in fly out.
Ianv. TDV6 S. Air Susp, locking Diff, Warn Winch, ARB bar, IPF lights, dual bats, G4 ladder, Frontrunner roofrack, rear wheel carrier, long range tank, Hannibal awning, 240V inverter, Cooper ST's, UHF, HF-VKS737 N3559
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| Fri Aug 22 2008 12:26pm |
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Mr Andrew
Joined: 28 May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 48
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IanV,
Does the road speed application make any sense? I wish it did, but I have a strong suspicion that when you pull the EPB switch at any speed (ie, above about 10km) that the car applies brakes via all 4 discs, presumably using the HDC system. Mine certainly sounds like that's whats happening, rather than toasting the pretty small rear drum parking brakes?
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| Fri Aug 22 2008 1:15pm |
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ianv
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Murrumbateman
Posts: 286
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knowledgeable dealer advice when I was having a run of sandy handbrake. He suggested it would self adjust from this as well. Anyone seen something in writing?
I agree that all the brakes activate at that speed, very nicely, but also assumed the hanbrake was run as well.
Ianv TDV6 S. Air Susp, locking Diff, Warn Winch, ARB bar, IPF lights, dual bats, G4 ladder, Frontrunner roofrack, rear wheel carrier, long range tank, Hannibal awning, 240V inverter, Cooper ST's, UHF, HF-VKS737 N3559
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| Fri Aug 22 2008 1:32pm |
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garryc
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 121
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A bit more. A must do is the Old Telegraph track for the 4wd challenge. The bypass road was well graded and boring on the way back. The dearest fuel was at Bramwell Junction at $2.386/litre I could have topped up at Musgrave Roadhouse, $2.209 and bypassed Bramwell easily. A further look at the Faultmate and the suspension error is "Front left corner valve" which is in the valve block in behind the bumper RH side. It only came on a day after being in the water crossing then went away but would come on after going through a dip? Will have to check the connector for water I guess. The other is the Restraint warning light on but only when I get out of the car with motor running, undo my seat belt and get off the seat and then back in and rebuckle. The Faultmate says "Right side restraint sensor 1" which I assume is the crash sensor in the front of the car. regards garryc S White, TdV6, air suspension, 110ltr Long Range tank, Kaymar wheel carrier, aux. battery, adjustable cargo barrier, LR snorkel(waterproofed), reversing and front camera, Cooper tyres and tyre sensors, Codan NGT. VKS-737 Sierra2367
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| Sat Aug 23 2008 8:02am |
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ianv
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Murrumbateman
Posts: 286
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Hi Garry,
Right side restraint sensor could be the seat belt and load sensor in the drivers seat, eg it can't tell if your in the seat when the seat belt has been undone. I am sure there is a seat in use sensor as well as the seat belt in use sensor. The seat in use activates the air bag and the seat belt sensor I assume contributes towards the airbag detonation type/speed. If you had water under the seat I would be checking that there is none left or some corrosion in the connectors.
All the best
Ianv TDV6 S. Air Susp, locking Diff, Warn Winch, ARB bar, IPF lights, dual bats, G4 ladder, Frontrunner roofrack, rear wheel carrier, long range tank, Hannibal awning, 240V inverter, Cooper ST's, UHF, HF-VKS737 N3559
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| Sat Aug 23 2008 9:10am |
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catweasel
Joined: 05 May 2006
Location: Back Home
Posts: 4219
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ianv wrote: The seat in use activates the air bag
the airbags will operate even when the seats unocupied as Australian law does not allow them to be deactivated if fitted.
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| Sat Aug 23 2008 10:03pm |
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ianv
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Murrumbateman
Posts: 286
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Thanks CW,
Another symptom of the ADR's lagging reality.
Ianv TDV6 S. Air Susp, locking Diff, Warn Winch, ARB bar, IPF lights, dual bats, G4 ladder, Frontrunner roofrack, rear wheel carrier, long range tank, Hannibal awning, 240V inverter, Cooper ST's, UHF, HF-VKS737 N3559
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| Sun Aug 24 2008 4:40am |
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garryc
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 121
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ianv wrote:Hi Garry,
Right side restraint sensor could be the seat belt and load sensor in the drivers seat, eg it can't tell if your in the seat when the seat belt has been undone. I am sure there is a seat in use sensor as well as the seat belt in use sensor. The seat in use activates the air bag and the seat belt sensor I assume contributes towards the airbag detonation type/speed. If you had water under the seat I would be checking that there is none left or some corrosion in the connectors.
All the best
Ianv
Thanks Ianv, I did not get water that high up but will check that connector. I found the "suspension error". The valve block for the front airbags that is in behind the bumper or bullbar is held in place by 3 rubber fingers that slide into a plate. With the TJM bar the airlines that connect to the block go through a hole in the bullbar that puts upward pressure on the valve block. I found the valve block lying on the bullbar and one wire had abraded. That is why I would get the error message when I hit a dip or bump occassionally. I have repaired the wire and used a cable tie to hold the block in place. Another minus for the TJM bar. They also did not supply any cable protection for where the air lines went through the laser cut hole which surely would have caused problems later on. garryc S White, TdV6, air suspension, 110ltr Long Range tank, Kaymar wheel carrier, aux. battery, adjustable cargo barrier, LR snorkel(waterproofed), reversing and front camera, Cooper tyres and tyre sensors, Codan NGT. VKS-737 Sierra2367
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| Sun Aug 24 2008 6:21am |
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garryc
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 121
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Just had a good look around under the D3. There were some marks and scratches but no serious dings but on the rear drive shafts the inner boot on one axle and the outer boot on the other had a cut and some grease splashed around. The front axles and boots were OK so I'm assuming that the damage might be from stones thrown up as there were some roads with larger gravel. The rugged sections on the Zigzag and Old Telegraph track would have been more likely to damage the front boots don't you think  Has anyone done a replacement for these S White, TdV6, air suspension, 110ltr Long Range tank, Kaymar wheel carrier, aux. battery, adjustable cargo barrier, LR snorkel(waterproofed), reversing and front camera, Cooper tyres and tyre sensors, Codan NGT. VKS-737 Sierra2367
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| Wed Aug 27 2008 6:45am |
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norto
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
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Garry
Just did the B/Ville track twice and the Oodnadatta track plus Cape York last
year and i dont have any cracking on the boots....so i dont think
it would have been caused by stones. Have you got any warranty left. Peter
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| Wed Aug 27 2008 7:16am |
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ianv
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Murrumbateman
Posts: 286
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Hi Garry,
I havent damaged any half shaft boots but I did have one of the rear air suspension bag covers torn of on the Tanami. I lost the brake pad wear sensor at the same time.
My exhausts are showing their age. Been very careful not to bottom onto them but the rock blasting has been regular. I have a fix that I will post in a new thread in a couple of weeks! Yes that is bare metal on my control arms.
 TDV6 S. Air Susp, locking Diff, Warn Winch, ARB bar, IPF lights, dual bats, G4 ladder, Frontrunner roofrack, rear wheel carrier, long range tank, Hannibal awning, 240V inverter, Cooper ST's, UHF, HF-VKS737 N3559
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| Wed Aug 27 2008 12:24pm |
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garryc
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 121
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Well I found the damage to the LH side inner boot on the half shaft. Sure looks like stone damage, now I need instructions to replace that.
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