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Paul284
 


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Key Fob Failure/Ebay replacement

My wife's key fob has now stopped working. From looking at recent posts, it seems as though this is becoming a common occurence. I have tried charging it on long journeys but nothing I do gets it working again. So much for the 14 year battery!!

I have purchased a spare key off ebay and it has arrived. It is a Canadana key (315mhz) not UK 433mhz (no mention of this on the listing!) . I have rung my independent dealer and he has said that you can program a new key fob if it has not been programmed to a vehicle before but he has his doubts whether this key fob will work because of the frequency. Any thoughts? He is willing to give it a go though when he gets back from holiday the week after next.

In the mean time be warned that the ebayers are selling stock that is US/Canada based NOT UK sourced so do not waste your money! Big Cry

Any idea how much one from the dealer costs?
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craig
 


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Presume you've gone back to the dealer and tried the warranty route - i see yours is a 2005, but they might play nice and replace it for you...
  
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Paul284
 


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Not tried the "warranty" route as I am now 9 months out of warranty ... Crying or Very sad
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The Large One
 


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try taping the non working one to the working one (back to back)
then inserting the working one in the ignition...with the non working one still taped to it and do your daily travelling for a couple days...has worked for us before Shocked

Otherwise new one is £92.91 retial...less forum discount Whistle
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Paul284
 


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Thanks for the tip - The Large One. If that does not work I will give you a shout. Can you PM me what you will need and the "adjusted" price Whistle

Thanks
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I never thought that would work. What is the thinking behind that if it works?
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Spanish GTR wrote:
Las llaves de contacto son idénticas exteriormente para todos los mercados, pero se diferencian en la frecuencia y potencia a la que actúa el transmisor de radiofrecuencia en la funda de la llave. Los transmisores de radiofrecuencia actúan a una potencia baja de 433 MHz, 315 MHz o 315 MHz.

As you found out all keys are identical but operate on different frequencies depending on the market (and therefore probably on the frequency spectrum licensed for this type of thing in that country)...

Strange...For some reason it mentions 315MHz twice - maybe somebody can check the English version. It also says that the differences relate to both power and frequency, but then later says that they all operate at a low power level....

Roel wrote:
I never thought that would work. What is the thinking behind that if it works?
The keys have an inductive charging system (non-contact)....as long as the key you want to charge is very close to the original one, that it should charge up fine. Nick's idea of taping them together is a good one - you certainly wouldn't want to tape it to the steering column and leave it there Laughing 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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Roel
 


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Inductive charging system. Ok I didn't know that. Make's sense then.
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1984 90 TD5
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The Large One
 


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Thanks PaulP
couldn't find the right words to reply.

Correct, inductive charging...hall effect type thingy wasistsface magig

Nick
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The Large One wrote:
thingy wasistsface magig

That's the fella Rolling with laughter

BTW I did have to edit my last message before anyone saw it.....I honestly thought "Why mess around taping it to the key?"....."Why not just stick it to the steering column and leave it there for a day or two"

I know.....I was having a 'Friday' moment....it reminds me of when my parents give me a key for the house when I was about 10 years old and I decided to put a sticker on it with our address just incase I lost it Rolling Eyes Embarassed Of course...you could trust people back in those days Laughing
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Off Topic Embarassed I did the 'leave keys in ignition over night' once Embarassed

Embarassed Embarassed also done 'left window open in winter (over night)' great fun clear snow from INSIDE the car NOT Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

edit (few years back when I live in UK though)
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My key fob stopped working intermittently, told the dealer and they said it worked for them and refused to replace it. It then gave up the ghost completely, so I used the spare, but then that went missing so was forced to use the non-working one. Surprise, surprise, it worked again. It's most odd that a few weeks rest seemed to restore it. I am still trying to get the dealer to replace as it's too risky having a temperamental key.
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may i ask what was the final solution to this please

also bought a key off ebay , when it turned up it had canada and 315mhz, took around 6 x weeks to arrive

my key is 433 mhz

got a iid , wondering if it will program, don't wish to just have a go in case it clears the original key and end up in trouble

thks so much in advance Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
 

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No idea re the key question. Whistle
   
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i wished to try and stop making separate threads and attach them to existing ones

didn't wish to come across as a pain Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
  
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