ukdavvy
Joined: 08 Aug 2008
Location: Sheffield
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Hi
Im am honestly completely trying to justify buying a D3
There is nothing else that looks like it comes close to meeting our needs as a family at the moment but I just cant get the reliability issues out of my mind
There have been threads from prospective owners before looking for brave pills  but my point is purely has anything changed since Tata took over, or even just recently, to make owning one less of a stress?
I tend to keep my cars for 5-8 years and they are privately owned so any costs hit me directly, not my business loss sheet.....
Im happy to take a hit on depreciation, although arguably now is a good time to buy a 6 month old model, but I am just not prepared to spend ££££££ on things falling off
SInce I had an Alfasud (yes its all true) I have owned 4 other cars in approx 20 years
In 20 years I have been to a garage unexpectedly just once when a screenwash nozzle fell off a BMW
This is probaby exceptional I agree but just about everyone I know with a Disco, RR Sport for FFRR has had untold amounts of trouble and have usually binned them at 3 years some of whom have even had bills for thousands of pounds to get through their first or second MOT
And them they swap them for another LR - madness or blind faith?
So go on you guys
I want a D3 so much
Tell me why it should be more reliable than the ones panned on Honest John, my mates amd the ones you winge about on here
Cheers
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JMC
Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Location: Aberdeen-Angus. Where the Bull* comes from!
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If you want a guaranteed fault free car - buy a corgi / matchbox. If reading stuff here has you hesitating, then you don't want a D3. Forums by their nature bring out the worst in any vehicle. Mine is an '06SE with approaching 40k on it in 2.5 years.........
Now look at this:
Try getting THAT from an Alfasud  The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 8:31am |
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DrLex
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Ciderspace [Oi be in Zummerset]
Posts: 1470
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All cars are a lottery; it sounds like you've been extremely fortunate, if that's all that has happened in 20 years.
I'd say it's too early to tell how the TATA switch has affected cars.
The only way to keep costs predictable is to lease a car, thereby allowing the lease company to group the running costs and take the profit/loss on the varying reliability of complicated manufactured items.
I'm sure those members with fleet management experience can chip in. Personally, I took the gamble of a purchase and am now running in the 4th year without an extended/3rd party warranty, such has been the reliability in the preceding period. I'd agree that most the forum members are LR fans, and might give LR a little more leeway, but I'd say the majority of Disco3 owners are likely to be buying them for their needs and not their blind faith in the marque. Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 8:38am |
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ukdavvy
Joined: 08 Aug 2008
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 15
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JMC
Thanks for your comments
Two points, as follows:
1) If I spent £5 on a Matchbox car that went wrong Id take it back for a new one, that facility is not open to me with a £45,000 Land rover
2) You guys on here are pretty self selected to be enthusuasts and fans as opposed to the general slag-fest which is the What Car forum, and you still have problems to bitch about
My point remains is there any reason to think recent cars are any better from LR?
Cheers
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 8:39am |
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DiscoDunc
Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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Before buying the D3 I had a Merc 320cdi and no end of small niggly problems, itwas in the dealers every month.
Ive now had the D3 24 months and done just under 80,000 miles. In that time ive had 4 problems,
1) Driver seat module (known TSB and replaced under warranty)
2) leaking transfer box seal (replaced under warranty)
3) replacement starter motor (i suspect due to regulary wading/mud as I change the starter on my defender every 6 months,ish) - replaced under warranty
4) replacement steering rack - (replaced under warranty)
Over all the D3 has been extremely reliable and I too intend to keep it for 8 years or so. I'll definatly buy another - you get a lot of car for your money 
P.S - I also have (as do many more people) a 22 year old Defender that is still going strong, you cant say that about even the biggest reliable manufacturers  Duncan
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 8:41am |
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Slimer
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Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Nanny State
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I'm on my second (08MY) D3 which is now 11 months old, haven't needed to call LRA and only been back to a dealer once with it - for a service 
First D3 (05MY) had a few minor issues, all of which were sorted under warranty, only had to call LRA out once when the starter motor failed, last 25,000 miles of my ownership were problem free
So, yes, they've improved as far as I can see    
Bumpers & other D3 parts for sale
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 8:46am |
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JMC
Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Location: Aberdeen-Angus. Where the Bull* comes from!
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General rule is that from MY06 onwards they were 'sorted'.
I'd have no hesitation in buying another but I wouldn't want to get rid of the one I currently have, so there's no point!!  The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 9:32am |
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DG
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ukdavvy wrote:
I want a D3 so much
Nah you don't Powered by TorqTune
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: .................It goes on.
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 10:49am |
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NHR
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Location: Warsaw
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Mine has been fine too.
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 10:55am |
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Jads777
Joined: 03 Sep 2005
Location: Channel Islands
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Likewise - best car I have ever owned.
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 12:21pm |
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Harlequin
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Despite a flat battery on Sunday (which was probably my fault), after almost 18 months and 27,000 miles, my D3 has been a joy to own. Can't think of a more reliable car I have owned - or one which has been so much pleasure to drive - and just totally practical. Whilst it might not be of concern to everyone - having driven all the current LR models off-road - the D3 wins every time I was taught to be cautious.
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 1:45pm |
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heine
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Go onto any marque specific forum and see the amount of bitching . We tend to only post when something goes wrong , and forget about how great they are when all works OK .
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 3:53pm |
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heine
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Just thought I should post a message about how wonderfully my car has been behaving for the last 50 000 km . 
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 3:54pm |
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countrywide
Joined: 16 Sep 2007
Location: Sunny South Coast
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That's your car doomed now you have said that
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| Tue Aug 26 2008 5:41pm |
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heine
Joined: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Hmmm hadn't thought of that  And me with a trip to Zambia just around the corner 
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