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Tony
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: Adelaide Hills
Posts: 176
 
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Hi Caver,
Now that I'm sitting down with MY cup of tea, I can see that the wording is a bit ambiguous! I was referring to the ban on trailers IN THE SIMPSON.
NatParks etc. are argueing that the present rate of traffic is unsustainable because of damage to the tracks and dunes. They are clearly working towards an entry permit system and some are strongly suggesting that the permits be used to severly limit the number of visitors per season.
I want to make it quite clear that I do not agree with these ideas  But trailers in the Simpson are causing havoc and I do think they should be prohibited IN THAT AREA.
Thanks for pointing out my sloppy posting..... Ex Defender 110 200Tdi owner.
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norto
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
Posts: 1117
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I think one decent wind storm would take care of
any "damage" inflicted on the dunes Peter
"Global Warming" The religion of the left
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 4:44am |
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catweasel
Joined: 05 May 2006
Location: Back Home
Posts: 4216
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Tony wrote: But trailers in the Simpson are causing havoc and I do think they should be prohibited IN THAT AREA.
this is the bit I am disagreeing with. you can tow a trailer wisely and cause as much damage as a single vehicle. a convoy of vehicles can cause more damage. I have heard that unless you have training via a 4x4 club , entry into certain ares of the country will be restricted. how much truth there is in this rumour I dont know but my point is its not what goes to these places but who 
and I understood your first post relating to just the ban in the Simpson.
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 7:41am |
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DingMark
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 124
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Gents - I'm enjoying reading this. Wish our pollies out here in The West could hold a debate about honestly held and deeply felt issues, obviously start mis-understanding, but then sort it out with civility and good humour. Well done.
PS: I have a high flotation trailer specially made for the D3 (same wheels, same distance between tyres, ect) but have been surprised how much even a lightly-laden trailer can bog things down. Pity there's no way to get the trailer wheels to spin (this I suspect would solve the problem of trailers damaging the desert).
PPS: All of the world's easy problems have been solved. Only the tricky ones remain. Jim Dowell
D3 '05 HSE V8 5 seater Gold, 19" MTRs, raised intake, 4x4Intel rear spare tyre, 110l aux fuel, 40l water, rooftop tent, Mitchell Bros hitch, ARB Front Bar, 9000kg winch, dual battery, matched offroad trailer, TyreDog press/temp sensors.
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 1:12pm |
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TDMP
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Location: South Gippsland
Posts: 355
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catweasel wrote: you can tow a trailer wisely
IMO this is the problem - lack of "wiseness"...but the same people who  the desert by not knowing how to tow a trailer will be the same people who will it without a trailer...and the same people who think "maxxtrax" is the answer 
DingMark wrote: How many of us have found ourselves trying desperately to convince a (German, Frenchman, Belgiun, take your pick) that it may not be the thing to do to drive from Broome to Alice in January? I suspect a few "recoveries" of the remains of these travellers may have something to do with the closure.
why close the desert and interfere with "natural selection"  Tristan
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 1:40pm |
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Rob Bruce
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 565
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Looked at ways to have drive on trailer wheels ages ago and wile it is possible the cost and hassel to do it was not worth it. Basically it involved fitting a diff that had a hydraulic motor on it conected to a varv-speed controler and pump on the vechle. Also fittind FWHs on to the diff for when not needing it.
Problems are fine tuning speed but I guess that would be ok with practice and experementation.
Eneyway I gave up on the idea because my conclusion was if I needed this I should not be taking a trailer there.
Although it opens up possibilities.
Cheers
Rob PS. This is in answer to Jims Question. MY05 TDV6 SE, dirt colour, Now cremated !!!!!!!
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| Sat Sep 06 2008 2:49am |
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DingMark
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 124
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Thanks Rob for this. In a much earlier life we had a double-axle trailer with a hydraulic drive on it for gathering hay in boggy meadows (in Colorado in a mountail valley meadow). It ran off of the tractor hydraulics but was a perpetual source of problems (and it didn't ahve the power source mounted on it). I suspect this is one of those things that quite a few inventors have tried to solve but any solution is inherently more complex than the problem is solves. Also I can just imagine what the auto regulatory bodies would do with a powered trailer (is it a driverless motor vehicle or what). On the farm we eventually disconnected the hydraulic system, and put on the dual wheels a rubber "tread" which someone markets there - essentially turning it into an unpowered "tracked" trailer. It was still working 25 years later and floated well over bogs which tractors got stuck in (but absolutely no good for driving over 40 kms / hr as the tread would throw). Jim Dowell
D3 '05 HSE V8 5 seater Gold, 19" MTRs, raised intake, 4x4Intel rear spare tyre, 110l aux fuel, 40l water, rooftop tent, Mitchell Bros hitch, ARB Front Bar, 9000kg winch, dual battery, matched offroad trailer, TyreDog press/temp sensors.
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