Bodsy
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Here's one for the Survivalists, perhaps Dom Harvey can give me some advice....
OK, so my lads Scout group are doing some mountain leadership & navigation exercises in a month or so, as part of that, we're also going to throw in the 'skin & cook a rabbit' challenge.
I've done this many years ago several times & can remember the general gist of the rabbit prep, as well as the earth oven.
But, just trying to make sure I'm back up to speed, does anyone have any PDF's or basic instructions that will help get them going through the challenge.
I want to make sure I've done it a couple of times before the weekend it gets done, but the idea is to see how they approach the challenge (& complete it) & I'm not sure what materials I could give them to assist in this.
They don't need to catch & kill it, I'll get some from our local village butcher.
Anyone got any (free) material on doing this that might help?
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RLD
Uncle Ray
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this is a earth oven is it me your looking for i am back now but for how long is anybody's guess
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Pelyma
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If you are buying from a butcher the rabbit will be paunched already (gutted) so will only need skinning. The easiest way to do this IMO is to peel the skin up from the middle of the belly to the back. Slide your hand over the back so you have a rabbit on a fur string if you like. Cut the skin in 2 at this point. Pull the front skin forward towards the head until it is covering only the head and lower front legs then cut through the neck and front legs. The rear works in the same way, but obviously there is no head! It is very easy and you should be able to do it like this in just a few minutes (young rabbits skin easier than old) it is just like peeling a fruit.
Joint the rabbit, dust in flour and then cook 
Not quite sure how this is survival, they should be snaring the rabbit too, but maybe it will help. DS3 TDV6 HSE
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 3:02pm |
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Pelyma
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So I can't type quick enough, but just like LT shows, but cutting the skin in 2 makes it easier to pull each way. DS3 TDV6 HSE
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 3:04pm |
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RLD
Uncle Ray
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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google bush craft skills you should find plenty on there. is it me your looking for i am back now but for how long is anybody's guess
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LT
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Pelyma wrote:Not quite sure how this is survival, they should be snaring the rabbit too.
I hope I'm wrong, but I expect even the Scouts have gone PC. I can just imagine the uproar from the a certain type of parent if their child was expected to participate in killling an animal! 
Good on Bodsy's Scout group for even letting them skin a rabbit.
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 3:24pm |
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Bodsy
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There was an interesting 'divide' at the summer camp when two troops joined up for a week in Scotland.
Troop 1 (Young Troop) was building fires, swiming in the river that ran through the site, chopping wood, baked banana & chocolate, BBQ on the open fires etc etc.
Troop 2 (experienced Troop) cooked on 'controlled' equipment, swam at the swimming pools, went 'off-site' a lot
Guess which one my lad's in....? 
I am a really strong believer in getting people (young or old) to try things. Of course there has to be reasonable supervision & clear instruction before they gain experience, but how else do they learn without actually taking part!!!!?
You're right Pelyma, it's not 'really' survival, but it gives an introduction at least in part to what's involved in the real world. Relating animals to meat instead of to plastic wrapped 'dinner'.
These guys are 10-1/2 to 12ish so step by step eh...?
EDIT Sorry, ignorant of me, I forgot to add, thanks for the info so far.  Auction for Santa Charity fund. LARGE photo or image on canvas or glossy media. CLICK HERE
Take a look at the Rays of Sunshine Video (HI-RES) HERE
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Last edited by Bodsy on Fri Sep 05 2008 4:12pm; edited 1 time in total
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davesimmons
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
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pm Bill Wright.... He used to be a scout leader or some kinda leader.. 
I can hear you now Bill... "There's plenty of big hills and cold water round here you lot"  Welcome to the Global Warming Corner.
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davesimmons
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I think Bill could have some different ideas though Welcome to the Global Warming Corner.
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 4:30pm |
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Bill Wright
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It's as simple as taking of an over coat really.
Undo the buttons up the front. (slit the fur without breaking the underlying skin.) Take of his gloves and boots (four quick chops minimum blood loss). Slide you hands inside the coat and work them round to the spine and slide your fingers up and down releasing the pelt from the skin. Hold the carcass and yank down on the pelt thus extracting the legs from the leggings. Then pull up on the pelt from the carcass and extract the arms from the sleeves. Then cut his head off under the pelt. The pelt can be used to make a glove ( or maybe two for youngsters).
Voila! le lapin c'est finis.
A sharp and pointed knife is essential of course ( all Boy Scouts should have a jacknife). The rabbit is about the simplest to skin. A sheep is next easiest and lovely on a cold day to get your hands in under the pelt for the skinning bit.
Start the meal with Worm Omelette (crows eggs make a good base), spit roasted rabbit with chestnuts roasted in the same fire and top it off with some scrumped apples. Ah ...... takes me back. I'm off out with me traps now.
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npinks
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 worm omelette's..... crows eggs..... gloves
I can't wait for my kid to join the scouts, He'll run a mile as he won't even eat a mushroom
But he is only nearly 3yrs
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 7:22pm |
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DSL
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Isn't it easier to buy burgers from Tesco????  Honda Dog U better DUCK!!!!!
and Honda Dog supports
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| Fri Sep 05 2008 7:25pm |
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Pelyma
Joined: 06 Jan 2005
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My kids were weaned on pheasant, trout, pigeon and rabbit so perhaps we are weird. They know how to gut a fish and deal with pigeons etc. all they need to learn is respect for the quarry and the rest comes. DS3 TDV6 HSE
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