ronp
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"Tragedy in the heavy rains, a 17 yr old girl dies in the 4X4 she was travelling in".
This is how the media are reporting this tragic incident.
When I heard this, even without knowing what make the vehicle is,
I bet it's not a Land Rover!!
If it were, it would have been reported as -
".. 17 yr old girl dies in the Land Rover she was travelling in".
Unfortunately BT/Yahoo decided to show a Land Rover as a library picture!!!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080906/tuk-...a1618.html
btw. anybody know what 4X4 it was? slowly re-building my gallery after the wipe out !!!!
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The Beeb don't miss any opertunity to have a dig!!! Honda Dog U better DUCK!!!!!
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TSR2
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What never ceases to amaze me is the fact that if they really looked at the story the fact that it was a 4 x 4 probably saved the lives of the others in the car. This is the same type of brainless journalism that blames global warming for everything, just another brainless subject to add to the list. Trees are the lungs of the earth-- wrong. Plant more trees to save the earth--In Britain--wrong. The hole in the ozone layer is caused by us and will kill the earth --wrong. El Ninio is a sign of global warming--wrong. Global warming is down to our CO2 emissions --no where near being more than a guess abnd a bloody big one at that. If I had made so many wrong calls doing my job I would have been sacked yet these  carry on with no accountability for what they do. Not a fan of the press...you might have noticed.
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busaboy74
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I know, dont even get me started on the press, anything for a story whoever they upset, i've seen the pursuit of a story be responsible for many lives lost, which in turn made more news  If you are helpful and then stop, you get more agro than if you never helped in the first place.
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robsmith
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Saturday - 11am - the Beeb news website said:
"On Friday, a 17-year-old girl died when a vehicle overturned trying to cross a swollen river at a ford in Powys. "
and their local (Powys) site said:
"A 17-year-old girl has died after a 4X4 car left a flooded forestry track and overturned into a river in Powys."
No mention of the make of vehicle, owever teh description as a "car" may be telling. I dare say more will come out over the next few days....
Whatever the make/type its a very sad event for her family, my thoughts go to them. Rob Smith
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ringoosmeg
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I agree with Rob, its a tragic accident, dosent matter what type of car it is, its still a tragidy.
If any type of car had been involved, Ive no doubt the same situation would have proberly arrisen.
The press should be sympathetic and not the miserable blood sucking scum they are!
sorry for the rant but it does make my blood boil!
My sympathies to the berieved family.
Regards
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Gareth
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However, the BBC yesterday evening did report the fact that the local authorities had pleaded with the general public to stay off the roads, even in 4x4 vehicles Which does show that the authorities acknowledge a certain difference between 2x4 and 4x4 cars.
Its not right to speculate until the facts come out. Silver TDV6 HSE
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Gareth
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I know I have just said its wrong to speculate, but I just read this quote:
Quote: The teenager who was killed was in Powys when the 4X4 car she was travelling in left a flooded forestry track north of the Llyn Brianne reservoir and overturned into a river.
The only track I know near there, which has many river crossings, is Strata Florida. The road leading up to SF has a few bridges which are built just above the river, and can get submerged by the river in heavy rain, and as such it is a very dangerous road in flood conditions.
Whatever they were driving, I feel sorry for the family. Its tragic. Silver TDV6 HSE
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ronp
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ringoosmeg wrote:I agree with Rob, its a tragic accident, dosent matter what type of car it is, its still a tragidy.
When I raised this thread I did state it was a tragic incident and of course sympathies go out to her family.
But it was the reporting aspect of this incident I was highlighting.
Not that the type of vehicle was more important than this poor girls life! slowly re-building my gallery after the wipe out !!!!
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It was a Disco 1 ...looks like the lane G mentioned Powered by TorqTune
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Gareth
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According to an interview on BBC Wales, a witness said that it would appear that the car slid off the track into the river which was about 5 feet down the bank, and landed on its roof in the river. It did not appear to have been caused by crossing the swollen river. It would also appear that they were driving the lane alone 
Obviously there is speculation as to why it slid off the track. Silver TDV6 HSE
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simon
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Tragic. Very tragic.
But coldly... no more tragic than someone dying post an accident on the main road. Its just wrapped up in the flood news and a little bit of anti 4x4 hysteria.
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redjelly5000
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Another later article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7604806.stm
I live in Tregaron, which is the nearest town to the scene of teh accident, and by all accounts the incident happened in torrential rain on late Friday afternoon. 3 helicopters were used for the rescue, and there were one guy and 2 girls in the car. By all accounts they were alone, and the guy had to walk miles in the torrential downpour to raise the alarm. That must have been the longest walk of his life I'm sure.
I was up on the mountain at the Dolgoch Hostel on Sunday afternoon, which is right opposite the track entrance, and there was no activity by then, although the hostel said they'd had some cyclists stay there who said the wreck was still in the river. The Hostel said they were the nearest place to the scene, but that the guy had not been there for help, so I guess in his time of distress he ended up walking further than needed to get help. They said the little tiny mountain road was a wash with police and press all day on Saturday, and the road was closed for most of the day.
I've never done the track yet myself, in the year that I've lived here, but it was on my list. I think when I do decide to attempt it in the Disco, I might go up there on the quad bike first and check it out. By all accounts a team of landies went by the next morning and they righted the car from its roof, and then carried on through, so the track must be passable. Apparently the accident may have happened at the confluence of two rivers, where the crossing is on a stream which flows into the river. Apparently the Disco was washed away crossing the stream and ended up in the river to the side.
There's a wealth of opinions on this subject and on how the force of fast moving water can affect your footing on the LRO forum. There's also some stupid ones too. http://www.lro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21593
It's a tragic accident. They were not expecting their day out to end so badly, if they could have known, I'm sure they wouldn't have tried it. We can all say the same about one of our own errors in judgement I'm sure. TDV6 HSE '54 plate
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