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REAR TYRE/BRAKE NOISES
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cayman6
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Tonga Green
REAR TYRE/BRAKE NOISES

My car has developed a groan/rubberish grinding noise from the drivers side rear wheel most prominent at low speeds because of little road noise. It seems to coincide with one revolution of the wheel itself but strangely not in reverse. I have swapped the rear wheels around as tech at dealer suggested a tyre issue but the noise remains the same. Have noticed all four of my scorpions have a kind of double slash band around all the tread 1/4 way in from inside but still have life left in them and are showing no uneven wear.
Now the EPB was worked on 2 months ago (strip,clean,refit job for £200) but cannot be sure the noise was there pre that so it may be a coincidence but that was the last time rear wheels where off. This has really stumped me does anyone have any ideas/same problem/help?
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United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java Black

Bearing? or could be the EPB again. Perhaps the shoes weren't replaced & now they're down to nothing? or perhaps it wasn't adjusetd properly before?
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cayman6
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Tonga Green

At first thought brakes but on leaning out of car while coasting it really did sound like a tyre thing. LR tech thought tyre based as well hence his idea to swap wheels,made that same noise though and also a mate in the back for a third opinion agreed. Really was hoping EPB problem as they had just serviced it for said price (£200). No mention of bearings which i guess he should have picked up on as he had a really good listen. As i said to LR tech i am loathed to book in just yet at £100 labour rates (out of warranty) until i have exhausted all avenues i can realistically hence the cry for help. The fact it only happens once every wheel revolution and not in reverse had LR guy stumped just don't want it to anything major but it's getting annoying now so any advice would be gratefully recieved .
 TONGA GREEN TDV6 S MANUAL
STAINLESS STEEL PROTECTION TUBES
19" HSE ALLOYS
PRIVACY GLASS
G4 DECALS

RRS'S ARE DISCO'S IN DRAG 
 
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Scotland 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini Red

I heard a few times, with Scorpions fitted, when they get a bit low, they sound like they are 'creaking' with every revolution...

How deep is the tread left on the tyre?
  
Post #349697Thu Sep 25 2008 4:43pm
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cayman6
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Tonga Green

At least 3mm all round but noise is only on drivers side rear even after changing wheels around.
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PRIVACY GLASS
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RRS'S ARE DISCO'S IN DRAG 
 
Post #351687Mon Sep 29 2008 7:41pm
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South Africa 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Vienna Green

Did you manage to find the origin of the rubbing sound?

Since last week I have a similar sound originating from my right rear brake hub assembly. A couple of days before, I sent my D3 in for a service with the request to fix my EPB. The EPB was making a grinding sound with EPB failure messages Crying or Very sad
After service by dealership the problem was fixed for two days, now the EPB doesn't work and the sound from the back makes me wonder if I will reach the closest (130km) landrover dealership...

To me it sounds like the park brake pads have come loose inside the hub. I'm hoping this is not the case!
  
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cayman6
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Tonga Green

No not yet got to the bottom of it yet but may have an answer with this link

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic25409.html

Its a EPB service post.Could be the shoes rubbing on the backplate.Now its decision time do i lubricate it myself or take back to dealer who serviced EPB in August to deal with bearing in mind i'm not a 100% sure and don't want to pay £100 labour rates if its not EPB.
 TONGA GREEN TDV6 S MANUAL
STAINLESS STEEL PROTECTION TUBES
19" HSE ALLOYS
PRIVACY GLASS
G4 DECALS

RRS'S ARE DISCO'S IN DRAG 
 
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Australia 2005 Discovery 3 4.0 V6 Petrol SE Auto Bonatti Grey

Gents,

I had exactly same problem and put up with it for ages. Finally dealer found it when they pulled the EPB apart and found that a retaining clip had dislodged and was squeecking when moving forward only, and I could only hear it at low speed with head out the window..

Hope it helps Thumbs Up
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Post #356237Tue Oct 07 2008 2:22am
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cayman6
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Tonga Green

Cheers Mobyone sounds exactly the same done the head out of the window thing to try and pin down the noise with also the same results when reversing, silence.Do you know if its doing any lasting damage if left unchecked?
 TONGA GREEN TDV6 S MANUAL
STAINLESS STEEL PROTECTION TUBES
19" HSE ALLOYS
PRIVACY GLASS
G4 DECALS

RRS'S ARE DISCO'S IN DRAG 
 
Post #356263Tue Oct 07 2008 8:20am
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Australia 2005 Discovery 3 4.0 V6 Petrol SE Auto Bonatti Grey

Hard to tell, but mine was left for almost 6 months!! Shocked The clip is fairly small and I suspect that it would just wear out eventually. The main problem for me was getting them to pull the EPB apart to check it. They resisted until my brakes were due for service and only then did the whole thing come apart...

I'd push them to check it especially if it's under warranty.
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South Africa 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Vienna Green

Just a short update on my previous post - I stripped the right back hub assembly as the noise coming out of it sounded horrible. all the lining was gone Sad the tension clips had also lost spring tension indicating overheating. I took photo's and sent it together with a root cause analysis write-up to the LR dealership.
Hat's off to them. they admitted that it was their fault Thumbs Up
In the mean time both parkbrake assemblies have been replaced by LR, I'm booked for a followup to replace the EPB module (also free of charge). this was not done as it apparently takes 6.5 hrs to do.

All in all I'm happy how the LR dealership handled this. I'm not happy with the fact that I had to take a day off work and drive 260km to have it fixed, and I have to take another day off and drive another 260km to have the EPB module replaced...

I'm fortunate to have a technical background, not sure how LR would have handled this without the write-up.
  
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