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PaulP
 


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Yep - I think it's always been available since day one.

Also, having one wheel in the air does not trigger extended mode....this scenario happens all the time when off-road so it wouldn't be a good idea for it to happen like that.

In theory, as well as the suspension ECU needed to detect that the D3 has got it's belly stuck, it also needs to sense a noticeable loss of traction or difference between various wheels....simply spinning all 4 wheels at the same time/speed won't provoke extended Thumbs Up

I said "in theory" because I've known D3s to go into extended when jacked up and in this case, they don't have the wheels being driven.... Confused
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I have found that when stopped due to ground clearance the car need to be driven (spin some wheels) this seems to induce extended mode. The second this happens stop driving allow the suspension to raise, press the brake pedal and operate the suspension height lever the car will raise again at this point drive on nice and slow. We had a great place to demonstrate this coming out of the water at Boughrood.


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So, I thought I'd have a play with this and see what happened.

I started by backing one corner of the car up some steps...



With all four wheels still touching the ground, albeit 2 in the arches and 2 very extended, I dropped it to access height, and sure enough, it sprang straight into extended mode....



You can see it popped the rear wheel straight out of the arch, and lifted the front one off the floor. (Great way to change the wheel if you can't be bothered with a jack!!)



I then pulled forward off the steps, and this was the result on level ground, still in Extended mode, but the rear does look higher than when I've seen it in extended mode before. This is probably because of the way I got it ino ext mode in the first place, with one of the rears fully extended while on the steps.



I then did the super extended mode trick detailed above, and sure enough it gave a bong from the dash, although the display didn't change, and the up arrow started flashing again, and the front rose a little more than before to show this:




It was slightly more levelled out, although I think that the rear was already uncharacteristically high because of the steps. It definately did rise more though.

And this for comparison is the car back in normal height


So, there you are, it works! And mine is an early 54 plate 05MY. Wish I'd tried the access height trick when I was stuck! But I suppose I keep learning every day. I have learnt so much about my car now over the last 2 years, I think I'll have to ALWAYS own a D3 in order to utilise all the knowledge I have gained!!!
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redjelly5000
 


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PaulP wrote:
...simply spinning all 4 wheels at the same time/speed won't provoke extended Thumbs Up


I mentioned this in my first post. I'm sure this is why I couldn't get Ext mode, as all four wheels were spinning freely, the car could not have detected anything other than we were moving forward. Even the speedo was registering!

PaulP wrote:
I said "in theory" because I've known D3s to go into extended when jacked up and in this case, they don't have the wheels being driven.... Confused


I've had that happen too, that was the first time I saw it, and I wondered what was happening!
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redjelly5000 the front is not fully lifted Thumbs Up
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That's as far as it went. It did go some more when I activated the super extended mode, but not much I must admit.
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After going offroad quite a bit in the rocky boulder strone trails in our area, you actually get pretty good at causing it to engage extended height.
  
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Hey can we come and play on your "rocky boulder stone trails"? That sounds like fun!

So I had a little play again today, I wanted to measure the heights in the various modes. We already know that the difference from normal mode into both access and off road mode is approx 2" either way. I would seem frm my measurements that Extended Mode gives another 2" (approx), and then Super Extended Mode gives a further 1" (approx).

So, that means from access mode to super ext mode, there's approx 7" of travel. And now I know how easy it is to trick the car into ext mode, I consider all 5 of those modes to be "selectable"!! Very Happy

Now I just know that if I had been able to get her into "Monster Truck Mode" when I was stuck the other day, she would have pulled out ok. On the other hand, because the wheels were all spinning freely, the poor old gal was duped into thinking she was just cruising, and I wonder if any of the ext modes would have been possible? I'm not taking her back into the bog to find out!
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redjelly5000 wrote:
Hey can we come and play on your "rocky boulder stone trails"? That sounds like fun!


Sure here is a taste of one of the trails we run. One of the D3/LR3's is mine.


redjelly5000 wrote:
Now I just know that if I had been able to get her into "Monster Truck Mode" when I was stuck the other day, she would have pulled out ok. On the other hand, because the wheels were all spinning freely, the poor old gal was duped into thinking she was just cruising, and I wonder if any of the ext modes would have been possible? I'm not taking her back into the bog to find out!


Try lowering the suspension when you feel like you are dragging it may kick in extened if the ground underneath is not to soft. I just wait for a good boulder.
  
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Drive one corner of the car onto something higher, like a big kerb or a bank, and then switch to access mode. As soon as she settles, she'll spring back up again, like she sat on a pin! After that, you can then engage the super high monster truck mode as detailed above. As you can see from my pics above, I used some steps. Smile
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Is it true that in Super Extended Mode you have to be very careful not to turn the steering to full lock as it can damage the continuous velocity joints? Or is this just an 'D3 urban myth'?
  
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trynian wrote:
redjelly5000 wrote:
Hey can we come and play on your "rocky boulder stone trails"? That sounds like fun!


Sure here is a taste of one of the trails we run. One of the D3/LR3's is mine.


redjelly5000 wrote:
Now I just know that if I had been able to get her into "Monster Truck Mode" when I was stuck the other day, she would have pulled out ok. On the other hand, because the wheels were all spinning freely, the poor old gal was duped into thinking she was just cruising, and I wonder if any of the ext modes would have been possible? I'm not taking her back into the bog to find out!


Try lowering the suspension when you feel like you are dragging it may kick in extened if the ground underneath is not to soft. I just wait for a good boulder.


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mattgreen wrote:
Is it true that in Super Extended Mode you have to be very careful not to turn the steering to full lock as it can damage the continuous velocity joints? Or is this just an 'D3 urban myth'?


True it can happen. Someone on here did one by booting it when in extended on full lock. Understandable as they would be at an extreme angle.
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