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woody32
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BIG END FAILURE!

As some of you are aware my car 55 plate s with 58k on the clock let me down 2weeks ago first time ever but it was big time, Big Cry no sign of any problems when I started the car in the morning,loaded all the kids up and went for a 20mile trip 2miles from my destination in a 30mph zone lifted of the accelerator speed camera pressed it again and rattle rattle sounded like it had dropped a valve but deep down i just new it wasn't that, anyway got picked up and taken to work whipped/i mean 2 nights later Sad the head off on the drivers side,no problem in there,turned the engine over by hand and the middle piston come up to TDC and i got the clonk clonk as I turn it back and forth my suspicions were solved,engine out then, so got the body out the way got the engine out,I wasn't sure which route to take secondhand engine or a new short motor i didnt want to pay me money and take me chance,so went for a new short engine ie block,crank,con rods,pistons,oil pump,crankshaft seals,and head gaskets thats what you get all made up ready to bolt the rest of your bits on.Picked the new block up yesterday from TLO Bow down there were none in stock but he found me one thanks Nick Thumbs Up so here is a pic of my new heart.

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On my engine stand ready to be built up over the week as you can see i have made a start , Also noticed my DMF was a bit suspect so ordered a new clutch kit and DMF up today Big Cry.Will keep you posted on progress Thumbs Up
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wish I had a workshop like that matey

good luck with rebuild
  
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Cheers Thumbs Up and thanks to you a little easier Wink
And the workshop yes very handy makes the job a lot easier Thumbs Up
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Post #81210528th Jun 2011 10:09 pm
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Made a little progress on the engine tonight,got one head on,the ladder frame on the sump and the sump,oil filter housing and high pressure fuel pump and the two cams dropped in.

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Took the clutch and fly wheel off as well tonight,new fly wheel and clutch turned up today i was really surprised by the condition of the clutch plate it looked like it had been slipping and was cracked in a couple of places so wouldn't of gone on much longer anyway, the strange thing is i had no issues with the clutch before hand.

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I need sleep Sad Thumbs Up

Oh does anyone know what this is i found it in the head when i first took the rocker cover off may of fell in not sure but its bugging me cant find a home for it anywhere its rubber with a metal washer on
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really need sleep Thud
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It's a valve from the vacuum pump.
It gets replaced when P017 is carried out.
  
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Bow down Bow down it was a bit of a long shot and it paid off Thumbs Up I had the recall done about a month ago so possibly it had been drop and left on the rocker cover and when i lifted the cover it must of dropped of and into my head, i have been looking everywhere for that to go .Thanks again Q86ARR Thumbs Up


Little update nearly finished the engine hopefully it will be back in the car tomorrow night if not sat morning,bear in mind i only work on it in the evenings after work Whistle

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and the old one

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Night Thumbs Up
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When they do the recall they have to remove the engine top cover, this requires removing the filler cap, this part hasnt been in the engine since the recall has it. could have been in the engine for a while and blocked up an oil feed hole and caused your problem has it??? Shocked


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Was a valve fitted to the vacuum pump, and this one "floating around loose" or was there no valve fitted to the vacuum pump.

Either way I would thin that whoever did the valve replacement as a part of P017 has some explaining to do.

How long ago was the work carried out?

Good luck.

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Evening all sorry I've working late on the car so not had time to reply or update the last couple of nights Thumbs Up


Hi sopjas wishful thinking but I don't think i would get anywhere,are you sure the vavle cover comes off Thumbs Up

Hi NJSS the valve was just floating around loose,and once Q86ARR pointed me in the right direction i checked the vacuum pump and there is a valve in there but looks slightly different.The work was done about 4 to 6 weeks ago and i've not driven it much since either Rolling Eyes .

little up date engine is all done and back in the car and plumbed up ready for the body to go back on in the morning Whistle

Quick list of new parts fitted

Short block
Flywheel & clutch
most gaskets and seals
Timing belts and all rollers & idlers
Bottom pulley and bolt due to bigger crank bolt
Front & rear antiroll bar spacers fitted
Wax oil inside &out of chassis
All plugs on engine and chassis refitted with connector grease
And I'm sure there's more Thumbs Up
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woody32 wrote:
Evening all sorry I've working late on the car so not had time to reply or update the last couple of nights Thumbs Up

Hi sopjas wishful thinking but I don't think i would get anywhere,are you sure the vavle cover comes off


Not the valve cover but if its dropped in the oil filler cap hole, got to ask the question how did it get their???
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Maybe it had fallen down by the vacuum pump where there is a bracket to hold it there and because i took the head before removing the body when i removed the valve cover it may have dropped in without me noticing Embarassed Or maybe they did drop it in there,I cant really prove it.I will be stripping the old block soon to see if I can find the cause of the problem if its lack of oil to that one big end it will be blue,if it is i will look into it further Thumbs Up

Body is back on and all connected up just waiting on my oils and antifreeze which should be in tomorrow,so tomorrow nights the big fire up fingers crossed Shocked
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Very Happy Well she's up and running and I'm very happy about that Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Thumbs Up
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Nice one. Thumbs Up
  
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Cheers Moo Thumbs Up It was very satisfying when I turned the key and she burst into life. Very Happy
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Excellent work Bow down

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