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My tow bar certainly won't fit in there ... Even without a batteryG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
10th Jul 2011 6:42 pm
RichardB
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wiggs wrote:
My tow bar certainly won't fit in there ... Even without a battery
Ah of course, forgot. Big orange job on the back
You will have one of those petite NATO hitches fitted then
10th Jul 2011 7:14 pm
wiggs
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yep ..thats the one
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10th Jul 2011 9:49 pm
wiggs
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Right ...ignore what i have said at the begining
After inspecting this morning ...i have found that that the edge of the battery was wedged down the back arch ...and has pushed a little line out in the panel
So i have now made a crude ( but effective ) stand to put the battery on ..keeping it away from the rear panel
I have also added a wooden section so i can add some other bits that need mounting in there .
So ..not as neat as the first attempt ...but no creases in the body work
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11th Jul 2011 8:50 pm
tomcat404
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that looks better.... but christ that really is a tow bar, good effort.
22nd Oct 2011 2:09 pm
drivesafe
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wiggs wrote:
Would the 6 B&S i had on the old traxide install be big enough ?
Hi Wiggs and sorry for the delayed reply, I missed your post.
6B&S or 16mm2 would be fine.2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
So why not just fit it like I have, in the same place as in the D3:
Yes it's a bit of a tight squeeze and you have to move things around a bit, but it fits fine, only thing I moved out was the alarm sounder which I fixed to the same bracket as the FBH, which inturn makes it more audible - bonus .
22nd Oct 2011 6:08 pm
Rescue01
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Nice fit Matthias much less cable to run Its not the height of the fall but the sudden stop at the bottom that hurts!!
Thanks Tony, since I took that picture I've also got the winch connected and relays etc all in the same area. Gonna have to try and take another picture this week of the current install and update the gallery with it
What I have done in the past with mounting battery's in awkward places is do what the F1 seat fitting guys do,, get a tough bin liner or plastic bag and push it in to the position where you want to make the mounting, then just get yourself some expanding foam and squirt it in all the shapes and corners and let it do its job then you can trim the excess from it to suit. And it will be removable. It looks like this area needs it..
Not wishing to rain on Ade's parade any further, but I've just spotted Bodsy's comment, (I must have skimmed over it first time round otherwise would have mentioned it before). Both the red and yellow tops are vented, I've circled them in the picture below, the only difference is that being Gel the contents isn't likely to spill out if tipped upside down or on it's side. Don't forget that batteries get warm when being charged so it only stands to reason they need to breath to allow for the expansion and contraction of their content.
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Also, something that's not being discussed in this thread is that when siting a battery, consider what could happen in a crash scenario: the battery could be cracked and content spill out - hopefully not onto any passengers
So although it's possible to fit in the boot area, I choose not to for those reasons. That said, I'm not saying it can't be achieve, just that I think it's less hassle to mount under the bonnet -even if you have to jiggle about the bits that LR in their wisdom have put in your way
24th Oct 2011 3:06 pm
WOODY179
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Agree with what MrH said, the other thing to take into consideration is that if the emergency services needed to disconnect the battery they would not be expecting one in the boot as well - best to have the secondary battery fitted under the bonnet (as it is a well ventilated area) at least the fire brigade would be able to spot the extra wiring leading to it.
24th Oct 2011 3:19 pm
Russell
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Woody I doubt that most fire men would look for a second battery, we normally just cut the first one and take it that thats everything sorted. Only time concerns would be raised is when power was found to still be on to some items.MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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24th Oct 2011 4:13 pm
drivesafe
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I’m with Russell, no matter who would be working on the vehicle, whether it be emergency people after an accident or just workshop personal servicing the vehicle.
No one besides the owner would even consider looking for a second battery and this is based on years of experience with vehicles of all kinds, fitted with two batteries and this includes vehicles where the two batteries are under the bonnet but out in the open for all to see, like in a D1 or D2.
Furthermore, because of the way Optimas are constructed, Optimas do not “breath†while charging or discharging and will only vent if something is wrong. Also, if an accident does occur and is so serious that the battery is split in two, an Optima still won’t leak like an ordinary battery.
There is no reason why anyone considering fitting a battery as Wiggs has done, can not do it.2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
24th Oct 2011 7:55 pm
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Armed with this info I'm going to fit both, life is too short to drink warm beer Club Exped trailer
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My tow bar certainly won't fit in there ... Even without a battery
christ that really is a tow bar, good effort.
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