kp
Member Since: 27 May 2011
Location: Sticking the Ex back in the skanks bin
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So is this now in effect that if you have a disco/SSRR/FF and you tow anything that has an empty weight that would push it over the 3.5 rule you need an O licence even if its for pleasure?
Ie, got a trailer weighing 480kg, car on top of it is 1200kg, FF is 2600kg. Total is 4280kg.
Yes you need to do or have sat and passed the E cat test or be a grandad righter, but if its purely for your pleasure/personal use and there is no gain but pleasure.... FFRR Owner, very nearly became a D3 owner 
Test piloted a new D4 XS SDV6.. Gone and being forgotten i hope!!
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 15th Jan 2016 3:50 pm |
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Washwipe
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: Bucks Oxon Herts Border
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If that's the case thousands pulling Tin Tents would need an O Licence, Hire or Reward only.
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| 15th Jan 2016 5:44 pm |
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Justme
Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
Location: Pwllheli North Wales
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kp wrote:A + B, So is this now in effect that if you have a disco/SSRR/FF and you tow anything that has an empty weight that would push it over the 3.5 rule you need an O licence even if its for pleasure?
C, Ie, got a trailer weighing 480kg, car on top of it is 1200kg, FF is 2600kg. Total is 4280kg.
D, Yes you need to do or have sat and passed the E cat test or be a grandad righter, but if its purely for your pleasure/personal use and there is no gain but pleasure....
A, its not the empty weight its the plated weight.
B, personal use is not covered.
C, the totals for tacho / O licence is made from plated weight not real weights. So I would guess the trailer is a 2000kg one & your car is plated at 3500kg total 5500kg even with no load in the car or trailer.
C-1, for C&U re the cars capacity to tow the real weight should be used.
D, yep.
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| 15th Jan 2016 6:14 pm |
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kp
Member Since: 27 May 2011
Location: Sticking the Ex back in the skanks bin
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Ah so any personal use is fine still! Thas what I was getting worried about. Maybe the front page of this can be fully updated as 18pages is a lot of reading when it could just be in the first post maybe to make clear on tacho, O licence and personal use FFRR Owner, very nearly became a D3 owner
Test piloted a new D4 XS SDV6.. Gone and being forgotten i hope!!
D4 HSE 10MY
D4 XS 11MY
SSRR Destroyer *2
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| 15th Jan 2016 6:23 pm |
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Justme
Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
Location: Pwllheli North Wales
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On a roadside stop expect to have to prove its personal use.
IE if the car on the trailer is not registered to you its likely they wont believe you.
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| 16th Jan 2016 12:27 am |
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