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cold_n_wet
 


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While we on the subject - sort off -

HDC or 1st low range

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Post #52681529th Sep 2009 11:39 am
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Both! HDC is gear dependant ie it will go faster the higher gear you select.
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Additional you can change the HDC speed with the cruisecontrol +/- buttons.
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Roel is right, although I don't know what happens if you don't have cruise control?

I suspect it is set at the pre set speeds for each gear and can't be changed.
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I don't know either, I never have driven a D3 without Cruise controll. I have driven severall D3's. I have been a LRDE instructor, but LRDE Holland only has fully loaded HSE's. So I don't even know how a D3 manual drives.
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D3's without CC react to throttle pedal position to control speed. TBH I thought all D3's worked like this as well as the function supported by the super luxurious cruise control.
  
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cold_n_wet wrote:
While we on the subject - sort off -

HDC or 1st low range

G


Both I'd say - I think of it this way, low 1st (or 2nd) stops the vehicle speeding up in the first place because of the engine braking effect. HDC will slow down the vehicle if it's going too fast i.e. if engine braking isn't sufficient.

So it's probably safer to not go too fast in the first instance as there's no guarantee that HDC (i.e. the brakes) will slow you down enough if there's too little friction. That said, HDC, becuase it operates on each wheel independently (like ABS) is quite refined and will 'find' whatever friction is there.
  
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Also engine braking can be too much, if all 4 wheels start to lock up solely due to engine braking HDC can't work as it's only resource is to apply more braking. You should be feeling the HDC kick in at least a little on steep decsents to know that it has the 'spare' braking capacity at it's disposal. Make any sense?

If you find yourself gainig speed whilst skidding down applying throttle can help. This will not stop the HDC working it just gives it a higher speed to aim for.
  
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Iain G wrote:


If you find yourself gainig speed whilst skidding down applying throttle can help. This will not stop the HDC working it just gives it a higher speed to aim for.


Additionally, and it's really weird when it happens, giving a little throttle stops the wheels skidding - they speed up and keep up with the forward sliding speed of the vehicle and can regain traction - at which point the extra traction has a braking effect as tyres dig in.

Like I said, it's weird when it happens, I've done it on steep mud slopes, hit the gas and you slow down!
  
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