J
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Stupid question - but I assume that traction control cannot operate when the diffs are locked? Can't quite get my head around it though 
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 28th Sep 2009 11:19 am |
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simon
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Traction control is independently controlled on each wheel, diffs locked or not.
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| 28th Sep 2009 11:36 am |
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Roel
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2 things:
1. If you would have lockers in both axis you would not need traction controll.
2. The difflocks in a D3 don't lock 100%. So TC still works.
Traction controll needs a certain wheel speed (7 km/hr I believe) Difflock works also below that. Roel
1997 Camel Trophy Disco ex-P101JWK (traded it for a Britains 42101)
1984 90 TD5
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| 28th Sep 2009 11:44 am |
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J
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Roel wrote:
2. The difflocks in a D3 don't lock 100%. So TC still works.
Thanks - that answers my question, I couldn't quite get my head around how TC would work on what was effectively a solid axle...
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| 28th Sep 2009 11:48 am |
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DG
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D3 doesn't have axles   21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 28th Sep 2009 11:52 am |
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Roel
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DG you are right but how would you explain it then without writing a whole story. Roel
1997 Camel Trophy Disco ex-P101JWK (traded it for a Britains 42101)
1984 90 TD5
2005 G4 Disco 3 BN55WPT
Also member of club MTR
and Club Faultmate
Interested in my 4x4 history see my website: www.mudmachine.webklik.nl
Sorry it's in Dutch and with google translator it gets funny.
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| 28th Sep 2009 12:00 pm |
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AndrewS
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DG wrote:D3 doesn't have axles
There is always one   In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 28th Sep 2009 12:01 pm |
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DG
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I wouldn't be able to explain it ...it's a pehenomenonenom 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 28th Sep 2009 12:04 pm |
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AndrewS
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When a car has independent suspension the official description is Rear Drive Assembly or Front Drive Assembly. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 28th Sep 2009 12:32 pm |
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DG
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OOoooo get you  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 28th Sep 2009 12:41 pm |
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J
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Location: Surrey
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J wrote:effectively a solid axle...
But if the diff were fully locked then it would be behaving like a solid axle, even though there is no axle in there - if you get my point.
Well I knew what I meant
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| 28th Sep 2009 12:49 pm |
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AndrewS
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J wrote:J wrote:effectively a solid axle...
But if the diff were fully locked then it would be behaving like a solid axle, even though there is no axle in there - if you get my point.
Well I knew what I meant
 
So when locked I suppose you would have Locked the drive in the drive assembly  In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 28th Sep 2009 1:08 pm |
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J
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Unnecessary quote removed
You mean to tell me I don't have diff locks either?? Should I be engaging the drive assembly locks??? Jeez, that rolls of the tongue, eh? Maybe another acronym required - DAL's anyone?  
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| 28th Sep 2009 1:52 pm |
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Roel
Member Since: 16 Aug 2008
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No that thingy somewhere between the rear wheels is still called a diff (I think) So you could still call it a diff lock. I have one but as it is an option you might not have it.
You will have something like that below your seats in the transfer case (is that called that way?)
http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/use...%20GTR.pdf
Yes LR still calls a diff a diff Roel
1997 Camel Trophy Disco ex-P101JWK (traded it for a Britains 42101)
1984 90 TD5
2005 G4 Disco 3 BN55WPT
Also member of club MTR
and Club Faultmate
Interested in my 4x4 history see my website: www.mudmachine.webklik.nl
Sorry it's in Dutch and with google translator it gets funny.
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