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So was mine. I had it corrected, then it went the other way after about 5000 miles.
Now it has been corrected again and it is centred at 54000. I still have a slight pull left and I think I still have inner edge wear on the rear right tyre. I am watching carefully.
Next service is 60k miles and I expect that to occur in November. If the tyre is showing definite wear on the inside edge by then I am going to push for the TSB to be carried out and may ask for contribution to tyres, as i first reported this to my dealer at 25k miles and they told me that I would have to pay for a check on the alignment.
Since then the TSB appeared!
6th Sep 2006 10:31 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
dylansdad wrote:
whats to stop a cowboy dealer like this one seems to be just making the adjustment and telling you there was no fault ?
the standard kit will provide a printout of the before-and-after geometry, so they are unable to hide anything (unless they have a geometrically perfect Disco3 hidden round the back for just such occasions )
Offside front - outside edge
Offside rear - inside edge
Nearsde front - outside edge (the worst one)
Nearside rear- inner edge
Does this tally with anyone else?
I will be taking a copy of the TSB with me but with regard to the tyres how bad have they got to be before they will consider replacement?
All info would be appreciated will also read through and print out any relevant bits.
CheersZermatt silver 06 reg.
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11th Sep 2006 8:08 am
SN
Member Since: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Romiley
Posts: 13710
I'm extremely nervy about this issue (having been got similarly with both of my last two new vehicles) - pleased to say that, at the moment, after just ticking over 6000 miles that mine seem OK (fingers crossed )Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Mine is about the same mileage Steve and seams to have gone in the last few weeks sure they were OK before as I was keepng a watch as well.Zermatt silver 06 reg.
Hi all,
My LR3 at about 65k km and no problem at all, tires seems to be worn normally and there is 4-5mm depth. I'm using Michline synchrones.'05 LR3 HSE V8 - Adriatic Blue - Larini Exhaust System - Lamp Guards - Dual battery system - Hidden 12k winch - Rasta Sump Guard
11th Sep 2006 8:34 am
captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095
too soft
Pirelli scorpion tyres are too soft. After only one half summer season (car deliverd in june winter tyres fitted somewhere November) and only 17000km, I decided not to keep the tyres for the next year since the profile was gone too much. Safety first.
I read similar comments on Pirelli scorpion on the net.
Since then, I don't even look at Pirelli, although they got excellent test results. Now I have Goodyear/Wrangler and the wear is much better.
Shame that the choice of rubber boots is so limited for our dearest car...
11th Sep 2006 8:47 am
Barn1e D3 Decade
Member Since: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Mid-sussex
Posts: 2021
On my tyres it isthe inside edge that has worn fastest. It goes into dealer this week for them to take a look, I will tell them about the TSB. For me, the facts are:
- New tyres have 8mm tread
- Outside edge on the rears have 5mm (used 3mm)
- Inside edge have 3mm (used 5mm)
- The car has done 23k miles
- If the wear was even at outside level, I could expect another 23k miles (say) from these tyres. In other words, if they wore evenly I could get 46k miles from the rear pair
- Based upon uneven wear, I will have to change them at 28k (ie another 1mm of wear)
- That means the life of the tyres has been cut short by 40%
- 40% of a pair of tyres costing £350 is £140
- The fronts have also worn unevenly and I have replaced these, but I accept that these wear faster with town driving and towing. Lets say the cost of early wear is £100.
- Therefore, the uneven wear has cost me £240 (100+140), assuming they halt the problem now with a geometry change
- I will press the dealer to seek recompense from LR at this level, I would happily take two new tyres when the rears reach 2mm on the inside edge. That would cost LR a lot less that £240 - a win/win for both parties
I will post a reply on Thursday once the dealer has looked and listened to the argument.2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.
Mine is in on Thursday too so we will have to compare notes Zermatt silver 06 reg.
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11th Sep 2006 6:38 pm
dylansdad
Member Since: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Solihull
Posts: 745
Barn1e wrote:
- I will press the dealer to seek recompense from LR at this level, I would happily take two new tyres when the rears reach 2mm on the inside edge. That would cost LR a lot less that £240 - a win/win for both parties
I will post a reply on Thursday once the dealer has looked and listened to the argument.
Barn1e, dont accept partial compensation. your perfectly good tyres have been ruined by virtue of the fact that LR have a design issue causing them to wear incorrectly.
This is their fault and coupled with the incinvenience they are causing you having to have this problem looked at push for a new set.
Mine were in similar condition to yours after 27K miles and I got a full new set at no cost.
your rights as a consumer are that the vehicle should work, they have issues the TSB because there is a known fault, they are required to put the problem and any subsequent damadge right.2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
11th Sep 2006 10:37 pm
Barn1e D3 Decade
Member Since: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Mid-sussex
Posts: 2021
Thanks Dylansdad. Perhaps I am a bit too soft, I will press for the complete replacement. 24 hours from now I will post the response!2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.
13th Sep 2006 8:49 pm
∫
Member Since: 13 Sep 2006
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 4
No.LA204-009
11 September 2006
New functionality has been added to the integrated diagnostic system (IDS) that allows the vehicle dynamic suspension (air suspension) to be temporarily set in a geometry setting mode. This mode changes the suspension ride height tolerances to a lower/tighter range (±5mm) to allow for accurate geometry adjustment. The mode is set using IDS, but the IDS unit does not need to remain connected while the geometry is being adjusted. Activating the geometry setting mode will cause the air suspension warning lamp to be illuminated and the diagnostic trouble code (DTC) C1A00-54 to be logged. However, when the mode is de-activated using IDS, the warning lamp is extinguished and the DTC cleared automatically.
Cause: Variations in geometry setting results have led to the introduction of the above suspension mode to improve setting consistency.
Action: When adjusting geometry settings, follow the adjustment procedure in the workshop manual and use service information below to select/de-select the above mode.
Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS) with DVD 103 or later and the latest patch file installed (available on GTR).
IDS
MMMM wonder if all dealers are up to speed on this yet? Mine is in today for the new wheels and to look at the 'tracking'.
Mentioned that I would be looking for replacement tyres because of the problem and they said that LR would make a decision on that but that it could take weeks!
So today they will put the old tyres on the new wheels and then probably will have to book it in again for the tyres to be swapped 'hopefully'
Courtesy car is a 54 plate Primera YUCK Zermatt silver 06 reg.
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14th Sep 2006 12:27 pm
Barn1e D3 Decade
Member Since: 28 Aug 2006
Location: Mid-sussex
Posts: 2021
Waiting for the call from my dealer. Popped into the letter to the dealer, the extra detail from ∫ regarding the No.LA204-009. I just hope they don't see me as an interfering old....trying to tell them there job. I have resisted the temptation to call them. Trying to stay 8) .Letter covered tyres, knocking lower steering, creaking steering-wheel (which could also relate to cause of knocking IMHO) , TSB and LA info on all, what more could they want?2005, TDV6 S, Auto, 190k miles, owned from new, V8 Brake Upgrade, Nancom Evo, RLD protector, BAS EGR blanking & Remap, separate ATF cooler, changing all the fluids ahead of time.
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sure they were OK before as I was keepng a watch as well.
old....trying to tell them there job. I have resisted the temptation to call them. Trying to stay 8) .Letter covered tyres, knocking lower steering, creaking steering-wheel (which could also relate to cause of knocking IMHO) , TSB and LA info on all, what more could they want?
