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thanks for comments
easy start/ wd40 seems like a possibility to try - is there agreement that there is no risk with this procedure
anyone got anything on getting the FBH to run before starting engine ?
she ran like a dream once started
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20th Feb 2013 9:43 am
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sacimiddx wrote:
anyone got anything on getting the FBH to run before starting engine ?
You need extra kit to achieve that (eg a BAS FBHIC) so not something you can sort at the roadside. It may seem counterintuitive but use of the FBH can make it harder to start as it tricks-out the glowplug logic.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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the WD40/easy start stuff like anything is 100% safe but if its good enough for the likes of the AA and RAC to use you should be ok for a tiny use.
The best way is to take off an induction pipe AFTER the turbo, spray inside it for a second towards the inlet manifold and then try and start the car. You want to get it to run off a little bit of vapour and then continue firing itself. If your running a continuous amount into the inlet it will cause damage to the engine and just prove that fuel isn't being supplied for some reason FFRR Owner, very nearly became a D3 owner
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20th Feb 2013 11:02 am
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Robbie wrote:
sacimiddx wrote:
anyone got anything on getting the FBH to run before starting engine ?
You need extra kit to achieve that (eg a BAS FBHIC)
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20th Feb 2013 12:26 pm
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Thanks for all the input Illegitimi Non Carborundum
20th Feb 2013 3:00 pm
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Had the same problem for about two weeks ago in the Alps. That week -20 degrees was the "normal" temperature at night, in the morning -15 degrees. What i did was adding a diesel additive which i bought with a local shop. The next morning when i glowed the plugs for about two times --> ignition on, glow, ignition off, ignition on, glow, ignition off, ignition on, glow, start. This worked really well the rest of the week.
But next year when i will go to the Alps i will have the BAS FBH remote installed.
Regards and lots of luck.
22nd Feb 2013 8:16 pm
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The luck worked
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jamieg7762 wrote:
Not always possible but if you an get to do it,it helps loads.
Get a hair dryer on hottest setting and blow in the air intake for a good 5-10mins, then try to start.
just used the wifes hair drier on mine this morning,works a treat and its only -3 here.
7th Jan 2018 10:32 am
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Hair dryer method of starting!
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jamieg7762 wrote:
Not always possible but if you an get to do it,it helps loads.
Get a hair dryer on hottest setting and blow in the air intake for a good 5-10mins, then try to start.
just used the wifes hair drier on mine this morning,works a treat and its only -3 here.
Ime no expert, and don't have the answer to the starting probs, however at 60+ years old and been driving for 43 years. That is a first for me
Cant be right surely to pay xyz..£££££'s to have to start it with a hair dryer
We live and learn
Ohhh....... Wait a minute, maybe its one of those new fangled Dyson hairdryers.Thats why they are so expensive, they maybe for starting disco's in cold weather
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Re: Hair dryer method of starting!
kevin-t wrote:
"Wideparting wrote"
jamieg7762 wrote:
Not always possible but if you an get to do it,it helps loads.
Get a hair dryer on hottest setting and blow in the air intake for a good 5-10mins, then try to start.
just used the wifes hair drier on mine this morning,works a treat and its only -3 here.
Ime no expert, and don't have the answer to the starting probs, however at 60+ years old and been driving for 43 years. That is a first for me
Cant be right surely to pay xyz..£££££'s to have to start it with a hair dryer
We live and learn
Ohhh....... Wait a minute, maybe its one of those new fangled Dyson hairdryers.Thats why they are so expensive, they maybe for starting disco's in cold weather
its an old trick with diesels,if you think that's archaic,a neighbour of mine in the 50s,60s,used to light a taper of newspaper,hold it by the air filter to start his old wagon.you are just heating up the air,whether it be with glow plugs or any other means.
7th Jan 2018 11:16 am
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LR saw it necessary to fit a FBH to aid the car. I'd use that facility everytime.
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