RichardK
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Western Australia
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The D3 is a TDV6 with Auto box no rear E diff.
Issue 1. I am experiencing a moderate shudder, not all the time, when accelerating, particularly coming out of corners, between say 30 - 50 KMH, if I back off it goes. Feels like wheel wobble but new tyres that have been balanced and it also occurred on the old set that were rebalanced.
Issue 2. I am getting a drumming sound, although not all the time, when the motor is maintaining load on the wheels, when I back off it goes.
Has anyone experienced these symptoms?
Could it be- wheel bearings
unbalanced tailshafts
gearbox ??????????????
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 18th Nov 2008 12:17 pm |
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741hcr
Member Since: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Usually in front of the PC
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Worn univeral joint on a front drive shaft or some play in the front wheel bearings would be my guess.
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| 18th Nov 2008 12:24 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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What mileage on the car . Could also be bushes - but normally that will also cause a clunking sound
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| 18th Nov 2008 12:30 pm |
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RichardK
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Western Australia
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She's done 153000K's but its not the bushes clunking
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| 18th Nov 2008 12:35 pm |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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I have a very similar shudder. The bad news is I have not a clue what causes it. Mine is on 114kmiles, but has done this for ages. It has never got any worse. I suspect it is the torque converter. Google for Torque converter shudder. It is not as rare as you would think.
I have just had new wheel bearings and tyres, and wheels, so its none of them.
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| 18th Nov 2008 7:53 pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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I've got a similar issue.
Accelerate hard on the flat, or accelerate moderately uphill, or accelerate whilst towing ... I get a slight initial shudder.
It's as if I'm accelerating too hard over a rumble strip.
It's not the wheels/tyres, as I get it with both sets of wheels.
From my observations, it obviously only happens [momentarily] when the front end is light.
Already had new wheel bearings - so not that!
Is this the same as others are experiencing?
What is it?
Last dealer said it was needing a change of gearbox oil @ £150.
Needless to say, I didn't buy it!!! I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
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| 18th Nov 2008 10:08 pm |
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Gareth
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Sounds like it Ron.
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| 18th Nov 2008 10:19 pm |
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Jamo
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
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I get the same thing. Don't know what it is but I have also ruled out wheels, tyres, bushes etc. Have a nice day!
2010 Cayenne Diesel with PASM & Off Road Pkg
2005 HSE D3 (Sold)
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| 19th Nov 2008 8:02 am |
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RichardK
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Western Australia
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Thanks for all the input, all descriptions are the same as I have, seems as though I'm not the only one and no one appears to have been inconvenienced by it.
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| 19th Nov 2008 1:11 pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Yep, but would be good to know the cause and fix!
Anyone talked to a dealer re this, to hear their input?
edit: Just googled Torque Converter Shudder [per Gareth] and came up with this!
http://www.shoupsauto.com/Tips.htm
seems my dealers recommendation of transmission oil change is not too far off the mark! I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
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| 19th Nov 2008 1:14 pm |
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RichardK
Member Since: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Western Australia
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I have replaced around 7 litres of oil when I replaced the transmission sump, I believe that the transmission could hold around 13 litres of oil, although I don't know how all that would be able to be drained, probably would have to be flushed through
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| 19th Nov 2008 1:28 pm |
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Tawny Owl
Member Since: 22 Oct 2008
Location: Here and there
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I had this shuddering on mine when i first bought it,
55 reg Auto with 93000 miles. Dealer was instructed by landrover to carry out 2 gearbox flushes which i was told was quite a lengthy process and seems to have cured fault.
The shuddering was around the 30mph and worse whilst towing.
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| 22nd Nov 2008 10:20 pm |
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Gazan1
Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Adelaide
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Yeh. I've got the same thing. 78,000 Kms and tow a van regularly.
Noticed it on the last trip and during a corner at low speed and under mild accelleration.
Actually had to brake accelleration (take foot off pedal) then re-apply it was soooo bad.
Seems that there are a lot with the turning and low speed/accelleration combos.
Put it to the stealer in MileEnd Adelaide and he could not replicate it. 
I will go armed again with all tis info and try him again.
Gaz
TDV6SE
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| 21st Dec 2008 2:51 am |
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Tawny Owl
Member Since: 22 Oct 2008
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Try having the gearbox flushed a couple of times 
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| 21st Dec 2008 6:04 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Rear propshaft wear can cause this
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| 21st Dec 2008 7:16 pm |
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