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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
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Firstly, CANbus is active - it sends a keepalive every 15 minutes, secondly, if you want / need that functionality, why not look at adding a remote or GSM switch to the system?
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 24th Nov 2007 7:24 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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I'd be more than happy with a remote to activate the FBH without the timer, but is that possible? I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 24th Nov 2007 7:32 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
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No, you need the digitised output from the timer, once you have the timer however, it's possible to activate the FBH by text message 8) *provided you add the other bits!
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| 24th Nov 2007 7:33 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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I think I will look for a remote as this would solve the problem.
If the CANbus is alive what is it sending to the FBH as it doesn't seem to affect the operation. I presume this is a different signal compared to the one it sends when it's awake ?. I still don't understand why it affects the FBH, but then I have no idea how the CANbus works. I thought the CANbus for things like the FBH was like remote switching of a local power source, i.e to cut down having a seperate power source for every item.
How does it work 
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| 24th Nov 2007 7:36 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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Do you have a link to the English version, it appears to be written in some strange language 
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| 24th Nov 2007 7:59 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Once you've added a telemetry module there's no reason why you couldn't switch on the screen heating as well  
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| 24th Nov 2007 8:06 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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That is excellent, thanks.
I think to remove the CANbus could mess things up. Do you happen to have the pin outs for the FBH just so I know which is which.
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| 24th Nov 2007 8:23 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Yep, the two connected wires on the FBH are CANBus 
BTW, have you considered how the FBH 'knows' whether to fire up or not when the D3 is 'asleep'?
it's those 'silent' CANbus messages
Pins 7 & 4 are CANBus high,& low, pin 5 is the supply to the FBH fuel pump
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| 24th Nov 2007 8:42 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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You are a fountain of knowledge, where do you get all this info. You obviously don't work for Land Rover as you know too much 
Will it  up the CANbus system if I try removing them 
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| 24th Nov 2007 9:01 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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countrywide wrote:Will it up the CANbus system if I try removing them
not permanently no, i'd consider using solid state relays though..... TBH i've never measured the effect of disconnecting 'live' CANBus as it would only normally happen in an RTI and at that stage, who cares?
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| 24th Nov 2007 9:13 pm |
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AndrewW
Member Since: 06 Aug 2007
Location: Saddleworth
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Found a guy in Germany - I sent him 3 x €50 notes (to avoid £20 for a Bank Transfer) and he posted me 3 timers. He has more, he says.
He actually posted them before I posted the cash
Any use/help?
(I'll need to work through this thread to figure out WTF to do with mine - I wasn't going to buy one yet.)
Andy 2006 D3 finally swapped for a 2016 D4 Graphite in Graphite grey. No mods
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| 25th Nov 2007 5:13 pm |
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countrywide
Member Since: 16 Sep 2007
Location: UK
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Well I tried without the CANbus connected and it tried to fire up, but then shut down. Connected it back up and it fired no problem, so I guess it uses some signals from the CANbus to run even with the timer.
I am happy to post instructions from LR on fitting the timer.
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| 25th Nov 2007 6:05 pm |
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stapldm
Member Since: 11 Sep 2006
Location: Swine Town
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Countrywide, did you JUST disconnect the canbus wires, or the whole multiplug? One of those other wires in the multiplug drives the fuel pump - no fuel, no burn... Dr. Ian Malcolm:
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Transgenic tomato anyone?
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| 25th Nov 2007 7:42 pm |
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