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LT
 


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Will HATO's drive D5's?

I had a conversation about HATO's and their vehicles with Red Merle on the weekend. It was a long chat with some HATO's that convinced him to buy a D4.

We agreed that HATO's use of them had been great advertising for the Discovery 4.

I remember this video or one similar from back in the day:


The question is will Highways England be using the D5? Does anyone know?
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It's a thought. Considering how well Land Rover support them, they'd be mad not to evaluate a few.

At the miles they do, an improvement in fuel efficiency would be helpful, but the reduced boot space, poorer access and increased loading height might be an issue; I wonder how those things compare to their Shoguns?

I'd imagine that towing would be in interesting test. Obviously, 3 1/2 tonne towing capacities are a given, but will the aluminium bodied, lighter weight and chassisless D5 be able to pull a full sized juggernaut to the hard shoulder, just as their D4's are known to?

Watch this space....

PS: It would seem that a batch of Nissan Navara's have also been bought recently, with one poor patrol winding up with an X5 Shocked Perhaps practicality isn't such a vital consideration Confused

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Yes.

I'm pretty sure the aluminium body has been tested well above 3.5 ton. There is a video somewhere on here of one towing an artic on ice.
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Im sure that if JLR offer a similarly cheap price they will get them!

I would love to have been able to buy a new D4 for £16k.
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But, they will have several manufacturers lining up to set up lease agreements (nothing's bought outright) at utterly uneconomic prices. I am sure that whatever lease and service support that Land Rover set up, they'll be making a loss on it.
  
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There is a guy over on Pistonheads who's a HATO and he said they weren't going for the D5 as they couldn't get all their gear in the back and he wasn't very happy about it Confused
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It's odd that they would have written off leasing them on grounds of load space as Highways England have just registered a BMW X5; that, split tailgate aside, is a good deal less practical than a D5 Confused
  
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I've never seen back seats used on the ones either parked up or running slow as they do.
Surely all seats down or taken out (do they come out ?) the load area similar ?
I'll look at my brochure more closely as this is a secondary factor for me.
My Current Disco is just right size inside.
  
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I wonder if they ever need to option to be able to put passengers in the back seat if (for example) having to recover a vehicle, or pick a pedestrian up on the motorway?
  
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Slightly Off topic, but interesting.

Scotland Yard set to spend £1.6m on Range Rover Vogues to respond to terror attacks

In response to its requirements, Audi offered the force the Q7 Quattro SE, Jaguar Land Rover put forward the Range Rover Vogue and Range Rover Sport HSE and Mitsubishi offered the Shogun SG2 and Shogun SG3.

However, following analysis and testing the only vehicle which met the full requirements was the Vogue.

The document states: “Only one vehicle was found to meet all mandatory and desirable technical criteria and will fulfil all aspects of the role of a Response 4x4 Protection vehicle with extreme off-road capability.”


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Red Merle wrote:


I'd imagine that towing would be in interesting test. Obviously, 3 1/2 tonne towing capacities are a given, but will the aluminium bodied, lighter weight and chassisless D5 be able to pull a full sized juggernaut to the hard shoulder, just as their D4's are known to?


Pulling a full size loaded hgv is no big deal so long as the brakes are released, if not no land rover product will move it an inch.
I assume D5 has low range?
  
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An interesting thread.

Government procurement for vehicles to be used by politicians, close protection / security, official governments users - even the lower ranking royals we have seen Discos used. We all know why - functionality.
I see lots in use near to where I live.

You wonder if the New Disco was considered.

Range Rover obviously has the off-road credentials & the chassis that would allow armoured but to my thoughts not the obvious luggage area capacity.
The cost element probably isn't an issue.

HATO's are way down the food chain - the alternative vehicles to the Disco 3/4 are still there in use so could be more bought.
  
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lynalldiscovery wrote:
Red Merle wrote:


I'd imagine that towing would be in interesting test. Obviously, 3 1/2 tonne towing capacities are a given, but will the aluminium bodied, lighter weight and chassisless D5 be able to pull a full sized juggernaut to the hard shoulder, just as their D4's are known to?


Pulling a full size loaded hgv is no big deal so long as the brakes are released, if not no land rover product will move it an inch.
I assume D5 has low range?


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Well I know for a fact KSAR have just got one that they will be having sign written and kited for emergencies so its very possible that they will Thumbs Up
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D5 towing thread

http://www.disco4.com/forum/topic156829.html
  
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