NJF and me are replacing his broken winch cable - about to stress the cable, fully laid out and now the winch won't work...
Need someone to urgently confirm either:
The number on TFC's website is his mobile.
or
Can someone PM me the mobile number.
(TFC fitted it all and he may know what the problem is...we hope...)
(NJF left his phone at home... )The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
Club "yes, I too have had the EGR's replaced..."
Club "yes, I too have had the compressor replaced..."
Club "yes, I too once had the car at the dealer for a couple of weeksnearly 4 weeksover 4 weeks...5 weeks"
Club "yes, I too have had EPB failure..."
Club "yes, I too get mysterious bings and bongs..."
20th Sep 2009 10:37 am
SN
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don't forget to add +44 to the pm
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Now back off to see a worried NJF...The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
Club "yes, I too have had the EGR's replaced..."
Club "yes, I too have had the compressor replaced..."
Club "yes, I too once had the car at the dealer for a couple of weeksnearly 4 weeksover 4 weeks...5 weeks"
Club "yes, I too have had EPB failure..."
Club "yes, I too get mysterious bings and bongs..."
20th Sep 2009 10:43 am
NJF
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Well, that was a bit of a mystery.
Winch worked fine when we spooled the new rope on. Then we moved a few hundred meters down the road, where there's more space to stress the new rope and an incline to help with the load. We spooled out nearly 30m, connected the load vehicle and ... "CLICK" ... no winch drive. Everything was properly set up and in its correct place, and all fuses, etc appeared to be normal. So we switched all off, disconnected and set it up again. "CLICK", said the winch (or its solenoid).
A quick call to TFC confirmed that we didn't seem to be doing anything too daft. After a hour of scratching our heads and carefully applying a rubber mallet to the winch housing, it was still refusing to play ball. Accepting defeat, we decided to take the rope off. For no particular reason, I pressed the switch one last time and ... the winch worked normally.
I have no idea why.
20th Sep 2009 2:14 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Faulty switch or even maybe a faulty switch finger........
Trev.
20th Sep 2009 3:58 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
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Have you been going through a lot of muddy water of late. Sometimes the drain in the bottom of the motor lets water in then, gets blocked stopping the water from draining back out.
Check that all the connections are OK In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
20th Sep 2009 4:46 pm
NJF
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Car's been clean and dry for quite a while. All connections appear to be sound and clean.
20th Sep 2009 6:45 pm
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20th Sep 2009 7:46 pm
Bushwanderer
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Sometimes winch switching solenoids fail.
If it happens again, try swapping solenoids around (if you can).
Best Wishes,
PeterThe Bearded Dragon
21st Sep 2009 7:23 am
Ken
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A good firm tap on the Solenoid works as well (sometimes)
21st Sep 2009 7:39 am
DiscoDunc
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Possibly need to clean out the solenoids. I had the same problem on my cheaper Tmax winch on the Defender - the solenoids were "full" of mud and clay and worked intermittently. I left mine too long before I checked it and it ended up sounding like a tractor...Duncan
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21st Sep 2009 8:21 am
NJF
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Thanks for the advice. I'll take a look at it again when I meet up with TFC in Tunisia in a couple of weeks and add solenoid cleaning to my list of things to do.
Another curiosity when pulling the rope out for the final pull (i.e., the second pull after the winch started working again) was that we felt a regular "shunt" or "jump" as the cable spooled off the drum. It wasn't quite in sync with the drum revolution, but it was quite noticeable. There was no abnormal resistance, though, and the clutch was fully off. The winch worked fine for the second pull.
21st Sep 2009 9:12 pm
altas2
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If the solenoids are past help, change them for a solid state 'albright' we have found with the Warn 8274's on defenders they run much better with Albrights fitted than standard solenoids.
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All connections appear to be sound and clean.
