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Discotres
Member Since: 25 Jan 2010
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Discotres wrote:Keep your cool, WD seem fair, in the circumstances one would hope they would do the right thing.
Good luck!
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 25th Jul 2011 11:27 pm |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
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They seem to be a lot better than warrantywise, they just left me to get on with it not a hint of "lets take it somewhere" until I started complaining afterwards.
Just be careful though (although this does appear to be clearcut) in case it is something not covered by your policy and they give you the bill. Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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| 26th Jul 2011 7:12 am |
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NJSS
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Quote:strip the engine and install a new one,
The devil is in the detail what does "new" mean - see :-
http://www.dragonengines.com/engines/
Replacement engine provided at the lowest possible cost due to our excellent relationships with major manufacturers.
Reconditioned - flexible warranty plan (3 months, 3,000 miles)
Remanufactured engine are -engineered to 'O.E' specifications and tolerances and carry a twelve month 14,000 mile warranty.
Used-tested engine carry up to a twelve month, 12,000 miles warranty and make an economical solution to other more expensive alternatives.
You need to be very clear about what you are getting, and what expense, if any, you are expected to bear.
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| 26th Jul 2011 7:24 am |
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DannyUbertek
Member Since: 20 Feb 2011
Location: Kent
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Don't now said it would carry a 1e month garantee thgough Spent tooo much club: Air compresser, parking ecu,D4 front D4 rear, tow bar, D4 arches, stormers 20" with General grabbers, new engine, new turbo, new front lower arms, new rear upper arms, new track rod ends, new anti roll bar bushes, Bas remap 2nd stage, K&N filter, clear indicators, door handle covers, nav update, wheel protector, new winch for spare wheel, 20" stormer spare, new plastic tube on top of engine, new fuel flap assembly, new mats, sill protectors,
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| 26th Jul 2011 5:55 pm |
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hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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hi all
I see Disco_mikey hase done a few engine swaps, were they all for busted cranks/big ends 
there appears to be a growing number of owners suffering this fate. Have these owners tuned their engines or do they do a lot of towing. should we all be worried
I feel very sorry for everyone who has had these problems, i thought these sort of problems were overcome by manufacturers during the '80s (my TR7 comes to mind).
all the best
Andi.
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| 27th Jul 2011 9:57 pm |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
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DM did mine, was a misfire, never towed so bang goes that theory Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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| 27th Jul 2011 10:18 pm |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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hugeviking wrote:hi all
I see Disco_mikey hase done a few engine swaps, were they all for busted cranks/big ends
there appears to be a growing number of owners suffering this fate.
2 were for broken cranks, and AFAIK they were both standard, and as Dave says, his was a misfire My D3 Build Thread
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| 28th Jul 2011 6:46 am |
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anglefire
Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
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I think Character could probably disprove the towing theory too  Mark.
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| 28th Jul 2011 7:39 am |
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DannyUbertek
Member Since: 20 Feb 2011
Location: Kent
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As far as im aware the vehicle was used to protect the former TB PM for most of its life, i purchased it at 49k then the engine blew at 62.5k, never toed as far as im aware the closest it got to a toad was TB's wife 
Fugly!
Spent tooo much club: Air compresser, parking ecu,D4 front D4 rear, tow bar, D4 arches, stormers 20" with General grabbers, new engine, new turbo, new front lower arms, new rear upper arms, new track rod ends, new anti roll bar bushes, Bas remap 2nd stage, K&N filter, clear indicators, door handle covers, nav update, wheel protector, new winch for spare wheel, 20" stormer spare, new plastic tube on top of engine, new fuel flap assembly, new mats, sill protectors,
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| 28th Jul 2011 8:50 pm |
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hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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Hi all
I guess i did'nt really think towing/tuning caused these problems, just hoped it wasn,t only very bad luck.
If it happened to me, i couldn,t afford to repair the car, i,d probably have to sell it "as is" and take the hit.
How does a missfire damage the engine, does it damage a piston. come back my old mini, just re-set points/timing/clean + gap plugs.
Does any one know how many vehicles have been affected, is it a high milage problem
thanks and all the best
Andi.
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| 28th Jul 2011 9:02 pm |
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hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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oh, Dannyubertek i see your engine let go at 62.5 k not many miles at all. Messages must have crossed in the post. 
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| 28th Jul 2011 9:13 pm |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
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Apparently it can melt the top of the piston as it is profilled to ensure a good swirl and good combustion, but mine showed no sign of that, just a lack of compression in one cylinder at 82k and no cause could be found. I went so far down the line that I couldn't afford to stop. You get to a point where you have to make decisions about where to throw your money, my first was to remove it from the main dealer, working it through then the cost would have topped £15k - for a minor misfire if I had left it there 
By taking it out of the dealer I got a bargain, £9207 of which I have recovered around £2k so far, but above all it is the stress that really gets to you rather than the numbers. The fact that people that you have trusted and paid thousands of pounds to over the years for servicing and parts will just turn round and lie to you and just rip you off whilst making it sound like it is all your fault. All from a supposedly prestige dealership!
Rule number one - don't trust a word they tell you, get it in writing and ask for the fault codes and the numbers from any tests that they tell you they have carried out, if they submit a warranty claim then read exactly what they submit and if in doubt then get a second opinion, even just on here!
There are of course exceptions TLO, I just wish all your colleagues from dealerships all over the country could be trusted to offer their best honest advice. Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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| 28th Jul 2011 9:29 pm |
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hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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Thanks for the reply Dave T. Can they (do they !) check for a misfire at service.
Andi.
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| 28th Jul 2011 9:36 pm |
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Dave T
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Location: Glasgow
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It's all part of how it runs. Mine was very slight, only at tickover, still had good pull and good fuel consumption. The emissions were high at MOT time which was what prompted me to get it looked at, wish I'd never bothered now Joined the BMWX5 45e group
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| 28th Jul 2011 9:41 pm |
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