Cypher
Member Since: 02 Nov 2023
Location: Leics
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According to the Haynes manual, the glow plugs replacements are “beginner with experience”. Judging by the langauge on here, it feels like it won’t be. If, in the case that they are seized in place… is there a reason not to use an inductive heating unit on them? Presumably there’s some aluminium somewhere that might melt?
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 26th Nov 2023 7:14 pm |
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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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What year is your car? Fill in your profile!
I wouldn’t even think about changing them
If you want to start your car AT 0°C OR LOWER , buy a remote FBH switch on (assuming yours work) off eBay.
This has the bonus of a warm heater from the start and a less stressed engine.
If you snap the GPs your looking at £700 for someone to come extract them
Its usually carbon build up on the full length of the GP that is the issue that causes snapping
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| 26th Nov 2023 7:27 pm |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
Location: Hiding under the M60
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I've spotted on FB that forum member CDS is now equipped to tackle glow-plugs and is mobile. Drop him a PM ?
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| 26th Nov 2023 7:30 pm |
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Cypher
Member Since: 02 Nov 2023
Location: Leics
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Pete K wrote:What year is your car?
2007.
Pete K wrote:If you want to start your car, buy a remote FBH switch on (assuming yours work) off eBay.
That's the worry!  I might have a look. I think I can see if it works when the engine ignition is turned on right? to see if there's exhaust gases coming from the engine bay?
Pete K wrote:If you snap the GPs your looking at £700 for someone to come extract them
Won't it cost this much just to have someone do it anyway?
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| 26th Nov 2023 8:20 pm |
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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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If you start your engine at 4°C or less the FBH should fire up. As you say, get out and look for the exhaust gasses. or open the bonnet and bits of it should be hot, and more obvious after engine switch off. Try and let engine run for 5-10 mins.
If it's not that cold, I believe unplugging the temp sensor behind the bumper, then switch the ignition on and off a few times until the outside temp reads -- or -60C or something 4 or less, and then start the engine.
Yes to have a professional do it, will be about £700 (to take on the risk)
I think on Eu4 engines the GP's are more likely to come out ok. But think twice before touching the rear one.
Get one of these before demand drives the price up. (that does happen!) (£78 + p&p)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124117320536
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| 26th Nov 2023 8:59 pm |
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480GT
Member Since: 18 Apr 2022
Location: Oxford
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Further to Pete K's suggestion I can recommend this remote kit:
https://robinsonlabs.co.uk/product/webasto...controller
A touch cheaper (for now) and home-grown in the UK. Had one on my car for a couple of years and it works well, and also has a USB interface allowing you to hook up the Webasto diagnostic software and clear faults/look at interesting graphs.
My car actually struggled a bit getting going this morning for the first time this year, now all I have to do is work out where I left the remote at the end of last winter  D3 2005 HSE
GAP IID
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| 26th Nov 2023 11:29 pm |
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Cypher
Member Since: 02 Nov 2023
Location: Leics
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Pete K wrote:This is a quick and easy way with a basic mustimeter to check the GP's on a cold engine
https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic49539.html?highlight=glow
I’ll give that a go tomorrow morning! I’ll do it cold and see what it spits out. I’m in two minds as to whether or not it’ll be the GPs as once it’s trying to turn over for 10s or so you can hear the battery struggling to keep up. Might just be a janky battery.
Will let you know!
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| 26th Nov 2023 11:52 pm |
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riverblanche
Member Since: 31 Aug 2010
Location: retford'ish
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Hi,
GP's are used by the engine to aid starting many more times then many think and not just when the GP light on the dash stays on.
using a remote for the FBH (mine started up this morning as below 4) is great for warming it up but I dont think its a long term option for failed GP's 
I had a set on my 2008 replaced (its for sale on here  ) earlier this year by CDS as well as the relays and I would certainly recommend him  (less than £700  )
I found mine needed changing with a clamp type multimeter, straightforward to work out how many were working.
I contacted robinsonlabs some time back about a group buy but never even had a reply back 
Battery check would be first check mind they give lots of odd problems if not good.
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| 27th Nov 2023 4:12 pm |
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Cypher
Member Since: 02 Nov 2023
Location: Leics
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I checked the battery. All fine. I went to the garage today and they said “we refuse to do glow plugs on the D3… because they’re inevitably galvanically welded in”. They suggested the FBH as well.
The only problem I have with the FBH “fix” is that you can’t just hop in and start the car whenever you want. But given that the FBH mod is so cheap (compared to the GPs) I’ll get that installed.
Do you have details for the chaps that did your GPs? I might get it done next year when it’s nice and warm out.
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| 30th Nov 2023 1:11 am |
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pwheeldon
Member Since: 15 Jan 2020
Location: West Yorks
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I can highly recommend Clive at CDS for doing the glow plugs.
On another note I may have a remote for sale, same as the one Pete linked for the guy in Romania. I've just swapped to a D4 and got a used Altox to use for traking etc. If you're interested let ne know.
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| 30th Nov 2023 8:08 am |
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V8 Noise
Member Since: 11 Aug 2022
Location: Dereham
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Do you have contact details for CDS. I don’t use Facebook,
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| 30th Nov 2023 9:21 am |
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SteveKK
Member Since: 11 Apr 2019
Location: North Herefordshire
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Take a look at this thread and contact him from there.
CDS 4x4
Regards,
Steve
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| 30th Nov 2023 9:37 am |
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V8 Noise
Member Since: 11 Aug 2022
Location: Dereham
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Thanks Steve. I didn't realise he was a site sponsor.
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