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Location: NorthYorkshire
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10forcash wrote:
out of the 2MB flash only 48kB relates to the base map - I could
Slightly wrong all of the file that contains data and not FF FF FF is part of the cars running,
the map area is infact all of the file because without the stratgies the map dont work.
The related maps have running stratgies that are part of the data inside the file so without both been there the car would not run.
There are also limites and safe mode stratgies in the data part of the file that look up addreses in the maps and adjust the running to suite its needs and set requirements.
Admitingly some of it is not needed to be changed for every day mapping.
Just like all these 1 byte instructions inside the mapping which there are millions of, all these parts of the 2 meg file have a big effect on the other main bigger maps that control the car.
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8th Jul 2008 10:46 pm
dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
Posts: 1112
Just got me 2nd tune
Its bl00dy good, especially with shell V power. Very pleased, good response over whole rev range. Must let it settle for a week though. The supplier also gave me a third experimental tune. Needles to say it didnt work still should be even better (is this possible ?) when fixed.
Not bad when all works, 3 tunes for £320, I think he should charge a bit more.There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
12th Jul 2008 6:05 pm
wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14368
Yes he's charging more now .
He told me i could have one for £295 with 2 tunes ...when i went to order it he said he was keeping his last box as the others he was getting cost him a lot more.
Also he's not the best at responding to emailsG4 Gone ...but not forgotten
12th Jul 2008 6:23 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
bellautos wrote:
Slightly wrong all of the file that contains data and not FF FF FF
Slightly pedantic.... obviously I didn't include the buffers or padding bytes of course all of the file contains data even if it's not used or not active in normal conditions Clearly, the security data etc. is there as well, as you well know, the active, standard map is about 48kb, this is the area most tuners focus upon
12th Jul 2008 10:46 pm
PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
wiggs wrote:
Yes he's charging more now .
He told me i could have one for £295 with 2 tunes ...when i went to order it he said he was keeping his last box as the others he was getting cost him a lot more.
Also he's not the best at responding to emails
Wiggs,
I've now got a reply from him after sending a reminder. He has confirmed that the new boxes will be 395 GBP with one tune (due to the fact that the second tune negates the need for the first tune as it's better). Mr Dastardly's post seems to confirm this.
I've copied my post from the other thread and updated it here to compare the current actual costs. I've also removed the number of tunes as they're all currently offering one tune instead of 2.
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Bell Auto Services
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Costs: 625 GBP = 425 + 200 (special forum price) *
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Mr Dastardly (from supplier XYZ)
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Costs: 395 GBP all included (no forum discount offered)
NOTES:
* Based upon price for Defender 2.4TDCI as no TDV6 price has been confirmed
Even though supplier XYZ has upped the price 100 GBP due to 'changes in the value of the euro', it's still 225 GBP cheaper than the special forum price offered by our sponsors...
The extra 100 GBP has put me off slightly, but hey-ho...it's still tempting 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
14th Jul 2008 9:35 am
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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So what you're saying is that you will let a virtually unknown loose of your car to save £230 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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14th Jul 2008 9:39 am
PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
Not quite....I don't exactly know the other suppliers either. They may be forum sponsors , but I can't exactly go around and knock on their door if I have a problem either.
At the moment I have seen a good recomendation from Dick Dastardly and after speaking to him via PM a few times he is very happy with the tune/service received (although we have to remember that it's still early days).
His supplier is also based in the same city that I used to live in, so it would be easy to get hold of them during a visit back home if necessary.
As far as the other tunes, I haven't seen any reviews or comments on their tune/service yet (although I think Slimer took up an introductory offer with one of them). This means that at the moment, they are even more 'unknown' to me.....and more than 50% more expensive....
Don't worry - I know where you're coming from, but so far the pros outweigh the cons. 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
14th Jul 2008 9:52 am
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
PaulP wrote:
As far as the other tunes, I haven't seen any reviews or comments on their tune/service yet (although I think Slimer took up an introductory offer with one of them). This means that at the moment, they are even more 'unknown' to me.....and more than 50% more expensive....
There are plenty of good feedback post from TT customers and I think you must be aware of Iain's technical abilities with the D3
As I said, go with who you trust - I would.
14th Jul 2008 10:17 am
PaulP
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Location: Barcelona
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Simon - I'm only referring to the suppliers that can do 'remote' remapping using the Powergate R box. Unfortunately TFC doesn't offer this service.
If he did, then there would be no discussions and my cheque would have been in the post a week ago
simon wrote:
As I said, go with who you trust - I would.
So would I, but Iain's OBDII cable won't reach all the way down here to do my remap so I'm left to compare other alternatives2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
14th Jul 2008 10:23 am
Pelyma
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Location: Patching, Sussex
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I can understand that, but surely Bell Autos who seem well regarded in the LR world would be a better bet?DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
14th Jul 2008 10:28 am
simon
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Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Maybe you should get a few others together for a group buy ??
Barcelona is well worth a visit especially if it involves a bit of money earning
14th Jul 2008 12:41 pm
PaulP
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Location: Barcelona
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simon wrote:
Barcelona is well worth a visit especially if it involves a bit of beer drinking
My thoughts exactly
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14th Jul 2008 12:43 pm
dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
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PaulP wrote:
Simon - I'm only referring to the suppliers that can do 'remote' remapping using the Powergate R box. Unfortunately TFC doesn't offer this service.
If he did, then there would be no discussions and my cheque would have been in the post a week ago
Yup me too. Its pretty remote out here.There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
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still should be even better (is this possible ?) when fixed.
of course all of the file contains data even if it's not used or not active in normal conditions Clearly, the security data etc. is there as well, as you well know, the active, standard map is about 48kb, this is the area most tuners focus upon 
, but I can't exactly go around and knock on their door if I have a problem either.
so I'm left to compare other alternatives
