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ferncottage
 


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I'm taking mine to an independent dealer tomorrow who's going to look at it when they can. Are your front/rear sensors working, mind are both out, I'm wondering if it's related? I think the rear sensors failed first, then the unit started playing around!
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Mav 90
 


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Both front and rear sensors work fine when system is on. No fault codes either.

Good luck and post your results.
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2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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ferncottage
 


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Apparently about 30 fault codes on mine when my local garage investigated! It's beyond them, hence it's going to a specialist.
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Johnny Oxford
 


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not too unusual if the codes havent been read for a while, best thing to do is get a record of them for future ref then clear all and see which ones return / persist.

FWIW I have similar (but not the same) audio fault and I have a persistent B1A56-11 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground

Ive trawled the forum and the internet for help with that but to no avail. Good luck, please keep us updated.
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Pete K
 


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B1A56-11 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground


I think that's one of them fault codes most LR have, even when there isn't a fault !
  
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Flack
 


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@Pete K yes that fualt I see on most cars.

@Mav 90 The BT module on the D4 is in the rear driver's side panel, have you checked this out with your most loop?.

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Mav 90
 


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Hi Flack, thanks for chipping in.

I have a 2014 XXV. I can only see 3 modules in that location? Amp, DAB and TV/RSE. I have another module under drivers seat which is TV/RSE related and then the screen and head unit in dash making 6 modules in total. I thought Bluetooth was part of head unit on my car?
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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Mav 90
 


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Issue still ongoing.

Car going to Indy for service and MOT next week and plan to get them to have a look while they have it assuming I don't resolve beforehand.

Weirdly, yesterday on way home from work, the amber stop start eco sign came on at a set of traffic lights - literally 20 secs after the stop start had just operated correctly at some other traffic lights.

Got home read codes:

ACM-Audio System
• B1A56-11 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground
BCM-Body Control
• U0241-00 (2E) Lost communication with the headlamp control module A
( on 03-01-2021 13:10:24 at 97284 km )
FCDIM-Front Control
• B1D21-13 (2F) Remote control switch - General electrical failure - circuit open
( on 03-01-2021 11:21:35 at 97264 km )
GWM-Gateway module
• B13C5-92 (2F) Secondary battery - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation
( on 04-01-2021 18:31:03 at 97340 km )
PCM-Engine SDV6
• U0447-00 (2F) Invalid data received from gateway A
( on 04-01-2021 18:31:02 at 97341 km )

Cleared all codes and the last two remained.

I have ordered a new Aux battery from Tayna because it hasn't been changed and it was only £45.

I am hoping the audio/most issue is related and a new Aux battery may resolve but maybe its wishful thinking..

Otherwise I think its a software issue.

Anyone know what is the gateway module and where its located?

Thinking back, I changed the main battery in April and completed the BMS notification via the IID and my issue wasn't present before that.

i'm wondering if my car has a similar issue to Mark The Spark experienced here(given mine's a 2014 XXV too)https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/welcome-xxv-club-owners-sign-171883.html?highlight=mark+the+spark+xxv

Anyone got any other ideas?
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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RATA1
 


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I think I had the last two when I disconnected the SS battery on mine a while ago in a vain attempt to make it stop working.
Cleared when I re-connected it.

I have an XXV and mine is OK in the audio department and I read that post from MTS after I made some CCF changes, but all good fortunately.

If you have done a lot of CCF changes have you restored your day one CCF to see if that helps if you think it is software? Got mine sorted after a CCF disaster - Flack Thumbs Up
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1961 Series 2 
 
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Mav 90
 


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Thanks. I haven’t made any CCF changes ever (that I’m aware of).
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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Anyone know what is the gateway module and where its located?


The module is located in the same compartment as the auxillary battery and is responsible for monitoring the battery states, switching over from the starter battery to the auxillary battery and a number of other things.

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• B13C5-92 (2F) Secondary battery - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation
usually means it is time to change the auxillary (start/stop) battery Very Happy Disco4 V6 SC HSE (MY2014)  
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Mav 90
 


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Thanks.

I’m hoping new battery will arrive tomorrow. Will fit over the weekend.

Will post the result.
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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Mav 90
 


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Stop start battery fitted today and reset using the IID. Haven't been for a drive yet.

MOST issue still present.

No faults on IID either pending or confirmed.
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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Mav 90
 


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So the saga continues...

Car has been to indy for service and while there they have looked at the infotainment issue.

Initial job carried out was to remove the steering wheel and clean and lubricate the connections(LR technical bulletin) as I was getting a regular switch pack fault code. it was worth checking the switch pack wasn't the cause. Switch pack no longer throwing up fault but main issue still present.

Next job - Complete infotainment software system delete and re-load with all updates.. 4.5 hrs later issue still present.. LT technical been involved via Teams viewer. full topix diagnosis. still no joy and still no fault codes.

Indy cant explain it. never seen anything like it.

I really don't want to take it to main dealer.

Any electronics gurus out there who can make sense of this?

When I bypass the modules one by one out of the loop the fault remains.
 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten 
 
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Johnny Oxford
 


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don't give up mate, I feel your pain - I have very similar issues, and have trawled the internet for a solution - mine is random but I am sure is the same

I have seen many similar problems on RR and Evoque forums - but no solutions
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Defender 90 200tdi 
 
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