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I recently bought a 12t bottle jack to do the trick after have to use the scissor jack on a rocky slope.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-zone/52937-new-d3-bottle-jack.html
  
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al cope wrote:
second that Steve. I've the clarkes one from machine mart, 3ton, hilift, and it twists badly, and sinks slowly - not impressed really, but cheap (£40), so you gets what you pay for.

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This is the cheap thin one, the £65 one is built like a tank, see below

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Just bought this SIP 3 ton one on eBay for £45 & £15 P&P. Very heavy, but has a solid rubber mounting pad - anyone know how good these are?
  
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for info, LR workshops use a minimum of a 4 tonne trolley jack with a large heavy base, not just for capacity but mainly for stability, trolley jacks are great on a hard, flat, level surface and can be dangerous on anything else...
TBH, for lifting something as expensive to fix as a D3, i'd be happy to put a zero on the end of the prices above
  
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I wouldn't disagree with you 10, but it is a cost, I know it safety.

I used mine on a brick paved drive and support with axles stands (not easy on a D3) jacking up on the wishbones. I will probably injure myself now, but so far it has been very stable.
 
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Jacking on the wishbones is possibly the most unstable place to do it! there are no flat or level load bearing surfaces... I know it's a measured risk but is it worth an injury to yourself or your wallet ? you only need it to go wrong once

The bottle jack I use to jack on the chassis rails has a max height of 515mm and a rating of 5 tonnes, not currently got a trolley jack but if I did, it'd be this one http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=28618
  
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sidney wrote:
Just out of interest, what is the maximum inflated height of a Takla air jack? anyone?
about a metre! chock the wheels on the other side though  
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Jonathan - the sealey one looks very similar (colour apart) to the Clarke 3T Quick-lift. Very pleased with mine, but now somewhat out-gunned by TFC suggestion Big Cry
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10forcash wrote:
Jacking on the wishbones is possibly the most unstable place to do it! there are no flat or level load bearing surfaces... I know it's a measured risk but is it worth an injury to yourself or your wallet ? you only need it to go wrong once

The bottle jack I use to jack on the chassis rails has a max height of 515mm and a rating of 5 tonnes, not currently got a trolley jack but if I did, it'd be this one http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=28618


With the car going up at one side only, so not straight up but with a radius, and moving slightly to the front or back, I would not trust jacking the car up half a meter with a bottle jack from the jacking points.

Isnt there a concave spot in the wishbones?

I use a Proma 3T trolley jack from the sides but might test the wishbone solution. I do not like too much the extreme jacking height. http://www.domacitechnika.cz/index.php?id=...4429515071

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I'm selling mine!!
As new, used only for one wheel change [wheels off and wheels on], still got box.
Machine Mart £65, mine £45.
Will raise a For Sale thread on this later, if no immediate takers.

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...sion-jacks

shiny moose wrote:

This is the £65 one is built like a tank, see below

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captain_sugar wrote:
Isnt there a concave spot in the wishbones?



There is indeed, it seats the top of my 4T bottle jack just fine and is the most stable method I have found so far. Once jacked I pop an axle stand under the chassis rail just in case. All works well.

I rarely need to do this but if it was a regular thing I would invest in something better TBH.
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Bottom of said wishbone

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mmm that doesn't look too strong (the lower piece) Shocked
  
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So are we saying jacking here is not a good idea?
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I'm no expert mate, but that does not look like a good place to jack a 2.5T vehicle.
  
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