Member Since: 01 Jan 2008
Location: Cowichan Bay
Posts: 2
Skating on Ice!!! No control.........
I have just signed up because I have just driven the 1000+ kms (600 miles) from Vancouver Island, B.C. to Calgary, Alberta and back experiencing white knuckle "Skating" on black ice for too many miles to mention! I switched the traction control to Snow/Grass early in the outbound trip passing a semi on a "Snow-covered hill" (I think there's a song with that line in it?) and the engine increases revs, the wheels dug in and I had traction but it seems odd to me that on the "Highway mode" AWD there is this lack of straight tracking on ice and snow and feeling of "Losing it" without switching to what feels like an off road mode to keep up with traffic doing 100kmh/60mph without AWD or traction control! Front wheel drive cars were passing me!!!!
I checked in with the Calgary dealership but they were about as useless as T@#s on a bull!
Does anyone have any insights before I call my local dealership this week? Maybe it's just a northern thing? I can't find any further info in the manual, oh, and by the way, I have had many other "Issues" with the car but will maybe get into those some other time.
Thanks.
1st Jan 2008 11:19 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Don't forget the laws of physics apply in any vehicle, clever that the D3 is, 2,700KG's of 4 wheel driven metal will behave way differently to a much lighter 2 wheel drive saloon.
When you select GGS, the throttle response is retarded to help avoid wheel spin and the application of too much power to the driven wheel when accelerating. You'll notice this in a second or two of selecting GGS.
TC and DSC will be set up to help catch any wayward sliding.
BUT, if the 2,700KG's of D3 has no traction or very little traction, it will break away far sooner than a smaller or lighter 2 wheel drive car. Physics again.
If they were passing you, then they were probably going way too fast anyway.
2nd Jan 2008 12:07 am
Nigel Tracey
Member Since: 04 Nov 2006
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 395
And what tyres
Assuming you've got winters on right ?Mrs Jones ? We've come for your Liver
2nd Jan 2008 1:12 am
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
Sorry, i've read the first post four times now and still can't make sense of it
Normal highway mode is for normal highways. The G-G-S setting is for "surfaces which are firm, but have a coating of loose material. This could be grass, snow or loose gravel, pebbles or sand. This program should also be selected in icy conditions"
I don't really understnd the problem!Too much intellectual firepower can damage your common sense.
2nd Jan 2008 1:44 am
Kingscote11
Member Since: 01 Jan 2008
Location: Cowichan Bay
Posts: 2
Thanks for your responses, I have owned and driven countless cars, vans, trucks, 4wd, AWD, and trailers in snow and ice in this country and numerous times on this route for 30 yrs., including high performance driving. I have never had this experience with any other vehicle, perhaps I'll keep it in the garage for these trips and drive my Golf?!! [/url]
2nd Jan 2008 5:02 pm
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
Posts: 10865
Kingscote11 wrote:
Thanks for your responses, I have owned and driven countless cars, vans, trucks, 4wd, AWD, and trailers in snow and ice in this country and numerous times on this route for 30 yrs., including high performance driving. I have never had this experience with any other vehicle, perhaps I'll keep it in the garage for these trips and drive my Golf?!! [/url]
Best you do that Bye
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2nd Jan 2008 5:06 pm
cherokee
Member Since: 03 Jul 2007
Location: preston
Posts: 562
For what its worth, I think you should select GGS
or whatever setting you need for the terrain you
are on, it is no good waiting till the vehicle starts
sliping and sliding and then changing it,it will slide
like any other vehicle if you are not in control.
Just what simon said it weighs 2:7tons. Always walk behind a Shooter and
In front of a Sh*ter
2nd Jan 2008 5:12 pm
cherokee
Member Since: 03 Jul 2007
Location: preston
Posts: 562
Kingscote11 wrote:
Thanks for your responses, I have owned and driven countless cars, vans, trucks, 4wd, AWD, and trailers in snow and ice in this country and numerous times on this route for 30 yrs., including high performance driving. I have never had this experience with any other vehicle, perhaps I'll keep it in the garage for these trips and drive my Golf?!! [/url]
Wwwoooww!
That was a wasted post Always walk behind a Shooter and
In front of a Sh*ter
2nd Jan 2008 5:21 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
I've driven on snow too in many vehicles 2WD and 4WD. The D3 set on GGS has been the most stable vehicle yet as long as you appreciate that it takes a lot of friction to stop a large vehicle.
As I said, in situations where grip is at a minimum, the D3 will break free quicker than a light car due to momentum. Just take is easy.
What wheels / tyres are you using ?
They will make a huge difference. The standard Wrangler M&S are good for most situations up to the extreme.
2nd Jan 2008 5:31 pm
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
Even rich RRS drivers are susceptible to the laws of physics!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wh7i_slippery-parking_auto
(I can't work out what he was trying to do here, apart from park in the river!)
Can someone translate?2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
looks like he got that sinking feeling
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you read is not what I meant"
3rd Jan 2008 12:11 am
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
mmm thats the problem with snow... cover s even the thinnest sliver of ice on a pool to make it look like a parking place
3rd Jan 2008 2:04 am
norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
Posts: 1605
Kingscote 11
If you dont like the thing, just sell it
Problem solved
3rd Jan 2008 5:58 am
caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
I think the guy was asking if he was doing anything wrong or if he had a problem with his vehicle.
Stupid comment about the Golf really.
We have members here who have driven in icy and snow bound conditions and have not had a problem.
Maybe they can help with tips on ice driving. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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