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barnsleytyke
 


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Engine oil extraction 2.7 d3. 2007

Having bought a 9 late oil extractor I have not being able to extract the oil
Tried it in a oil bucket and it worked
I think the 1 metre plastic tube is not long enough and is not getting into the sump bottom
I have ordered a longer tube
Does the dipstick hole have to be sealed where the tuberose in. Personally I do not think so
Any tips or anyone used them on D3 2.7
Any help much appreciated
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So long as the tube reaches the oil there's no reason to seal the dipstick tube at all.
Probably best to have warm oil to aid the extraction though.

I always drop the oil even though I've got 2 oil pumps...like to get my hands dirty! Wink
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barnsleytyke
 


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I used to but at 79 I find it too much to get underside and the engine covers are hard to get off.
If I was younger I would have cut a hole in covers for sump plug access
  
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lynalldiscovery
 


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The pipe needs to be quite long, I can just get my extractor to work when it is wedged on top of the engine and the pipe in the dipstick hole, warm/hot oil makes it so much faster.

No need to seal it, you may have read that somehwere and that will be to do with boat engines where they use the actual dipstick tube as the suction pipe, so the vac pip slips over the end of the tube, rather than inside.
  
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barnsleytyke
 


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Thanks for that
Pipe here tomorrow so will let you know
Cheers
  
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I use one like this and don't have any problems. I always seem to get the best results when the car is facing down the drive and most importantly as has been mentioned in previous posts the oil is hot (Not just warm) Thumbs Up

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i found that if i twist and push the tube that goes down the dipstick it seams to find some more oil, as if the tube goes to a `lower level`. i only got about 2 litres out until i did the twist and push thing. i use a motorised one that runs off the battery. you can hear the motor change tone when stops sucking and then changes again when it finds oil again.
  
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barnsleytyke
 


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Thanks for replies lads
Hoping to do it today
Will let you know how I get on
  
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Aerialmark wrote:
I use one like this and don't have any problems. I always seem to get the best results when the car is facing down the drive and most importantly as has been mentioned in previous posts the oil is hot (Not just warm) Thumbs Up



That’s exactly what I use. Extracts all the oil with a little wiggle at the end. Also use it to suck the last bits out of the filter housing. Take it down the council tip and pour it away. No overalls required 👍
  
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To be honest regardless of the size of tube never been able to get the tube down the dipstick hole on my D3

Wondering if it’s possible as mentioned if it will work putting a hose on the outside of the dipstick tube

Enclosed pic of the one I have

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trailhound wrote:
Aerialmark wrote:
I use one like this and don't have any problems. I always seem to get the best results when the car is facing down the drive and most importantly as has been mentioned in previous posts the oil is hot (Not just warm) Thumbs Up



That’s exactly what I use. Extracts all the oil with a little wiggle at the end. Also use it to suck the last bits out of the filter housing. Take it down the council tip and pour it away. No overalls required 👍

I also used it to suck the water out of the footwell once. It worked well on that to Laughing
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barnsleytyke
 


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I find that the 1 metre smallest tube goes in then stops roughly depth of dipstick.
Then if I push and twist tube it goes farther down. The problem is the tube is not long enough so the upper joint is level with the top of the dipstick funnel
I have ordered some longer tube, but first one too soft hence as of today am waiting for some to arrive that is semi rigid
Here's hoping
Will keep informed
  
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barnsleytyke
 


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Aerialmark
What is the outer diameter of the tube you get down using your pump..
  
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barnsleytyke
 


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Today , have tried new pipe 4 mm od. 2mm id. Started siphoning first off.
I had pipe in fully around 1 1/2 metres. Then stopped it because I could not see how much was in the siphon white colour and not clear
Began again but it would not start siphoning again. Tried every idea but to no avail
Tried it in a bucket and small pipe did not seem to siphon. The larger pipe on its own did
Conclusion. You need a pipe a little larger than 4 mm od perhaps 5 mm and 3 mm bore. But it is finding one that you can buy 2 Metres long
The 6 mm pipe is too big
Aborted in end but still determined to get it working. The siphon is good plenty of suction.
I refilled what I had out and reckon I got 1.5 litres out
Will keep in touch as I have not come to a conclusion
Would anyone who has been successful tell me what the od and id of the pipe they are using.
I had pipe well down in engine so it was in the oil
Cheers
  
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I've had problem on TDV6 too.

I had a Sealey unit which was air/manual powered and it would never get all the oil out.

If you look at the dipstick tube there is quite sharp turn where it enters the bottom end and that section in corrugated.

Many of the tubes seem to have a natural curve where they've been taking off a roll, add this to the bend at the bottom the dipstick tube often the tube can exit above the oil once a certain amount is out.

I ended buying a air powered Mityvac unit which was double the price but it has much better suction and the first time I used it I got everything out.

The key is to use any curvature to your advantage, mark the tube on the inside of the radius, use the dip stick to compare th length so you should have a rough idea of how far you need push the tube in. Then when you feed it in you need to twist the tube so the curve directs the tube at the bottom of the sump. You may need to hold it in that position.

Blocking the dipstick tube will achieve nothing and as long as the tube is in oil you should have suction.

I can't remember the last time I took a sump plug out, people will often say you can't get everything thing out by vacuum but on many cars you actually get more out due to the position of the sumpo plug. All cars are different but the TDV6 is the most fiddly I've done.

The thing with a decent extractor is you are far more likely to change the oil because there is so little effort involved.
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