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Dead battery.....why?
Went away for a one night camp last night. Got the OZ-tent bang on now and down to an art, fully setup up and sitting with a drink in hand in under 10 mins
Packed up all the gear this morning to head back, inserted key, turned and....click,click,click,click with the dash doing a Blackpool illumination dance
So wondering what went wrong and all I could think of was the recent addition of the cubby cooler, which runs after the ignition is off somehow running all night as my tins of 'relentless' were stunningly cold this morning
While pondering this and a call to LRA to come and give me a jump which took two hours (via AA patrolman) mrs JKP informed that she was cold at early o'clock to got into the car and turned the ignition on, which must have been about two hours worth of battery life before I got up note ign on and not started.
So my question is after all that.....
Is the cubby cooler not meant to cut off when the battery gets to a certain level? and I guess with the mrs turning on the ignition it must have turned it back on draining the battery below cranking levels. Sound right?
Bummer is that I have a split charge ready to go into the car, but not had time to do anything about it. It would have been cool to jump start myself
14th Aug 2010 4:00 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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I'd blame Mrs jkp!! Key in ignition & turned to pos II would kill the battery quickly. Why though, it's not gonna warm up without the engine running??
Cooler should run til certain voltage level then cut off. Saying that got low voltage warning on stereo and no sound last time I left the D4 cooler on in SWMBO's car overnight, only resumed after restart following few miles drive.
14th Aug 2010 4:37 pm
jkp
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That was my feeling
Who knows what wimmin think at times
14th Aug 2010 5:03 pm
Ken
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ig on heated seats
14th Aug 2010 5:15 pm
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and no engine on so won't wake anyone to say "don't do that!", ah a cunning mind!!
14th Aug 2010 5:20 pm
jkp
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Just challenged the ball and chain and got a to that one
14th Aug 2010 5:37 pm
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As long as Mrs jkp was nice and toastie, that's all that matters!!
14th Aug 2010 5:43 pm
jkp
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She was uncharacteristically calm while waiting the two hours on the AA chap to arrive and jump start the car....that should have really been a red flag moment to her guilt
14th Aug 2010 6:13 pm
scootay2k5
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i was sat in my car for about 2 hours once with just the radio on whilst i was waiting to pick my dad up. as soon as he got to me i tried to start the car and the battery was dead!
for some reason the radio system really drains the battery.
15th Aug 2010 11:27 am
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But was the key in the ignition? If so a lot more than the radio was on 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
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15th Aug 2010 11:35 am
discoBizz
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Though I cannot yet qualify this comment, I think my cooler (in a MY08) is linked to the "awake" live +ve feed (i.e. I leave it on all the time, and once the key is removed and car locked, it continues to run until the car goes to "sleep"). I'll need to check if it comes on as well when the car gets "awakened".
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On both my 06s the cooler can be on hours later with ice in the bottom from where condensation has run down the cans! Once left half pint of milk in it and it froze overnight!
16th Aug 2010 9:56 am
pauleline
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To add my bit: in our 2006 HSE the cooler switches off the moment the engine is stopped and the key taken out. Our battery is now less than a year old and is not an OEM Land Rover but a Banner Power Bull 100 Ah model. Don't know if that is less than the requirements needed for the cooler to keep working.
I always understood that the cooler would stay on after switch off untill the voltage dropped below a certain point, but have never actually experienced the cooler running with the key out of the car.
R. Paul
16th Aug 2010 10:17 am
Roel
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I did a test a while ago to see what kind off battery charger I needed for programming etc Mine needed close to 25 amps in with the key in position 2 and I have a V8 without glow plugs.
So I think with a tdv6 it pulls even more the first 20 seconds or so.Roel
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16th Aug 2010 10:23 am
NickyN
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Camping flattens D3 battery
My MY05 HSE has been giving me grief when camping on many occasions with a particular usage i.e. unlocking and relocking the car eight or nine times over a couple of days without starting the engine results in a flattened battery. Typically we take stuff in and out of the car while in one place without using the car. But it's inconvenient when you come to move off and have to jump start it from a Kia or Shogun!
I have had the car in to a LR specialist (not a dealer) who gives the car a clean bill of health and can offer no suggestions.
One auto electrician just says - systems too power hungry and sophisticated for this usage - just hook up a battery charger when you are camping!
The battery has been replaced with a new LR battery but the behaviour continues.
Conversely, simply locking the car - leaving it for a couple of weeks and starting it is fine - battery stays up.
I am completely stumped since other D3s on camp sites don't seem to have this problem.
Can it really be that the car systems take so much juice when the car is unlocked then re-locked several times that it fails to start?
Any advice welcomed!---
Nick
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note ign on and not started.
inconvenient when you come to move off and have to jump start it from a Kia or Shogun!
