Member Since: 04 May 2009
Location: Johannesburg
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Front PDC & Door Sill Protectors
Hi Guys. I new here but only because I have just acquired a TDV6 SE. I have two questions:-
1.0 The SE is only equipped with rear sensors whereas the HSE has both front and back. Can one install front sensors and connected it up to the PDC control? I see on the dash board that there is a switch for front sensors. My LR dealer is adamant that the harness for the SE differs from that of the HSE and an integrated system is not available for the SE. Is this true?
2.0 I have not been able to check but does the HSE have door sill protectors? If so I would imagine that they should be obtainable from a LR dealer. If not, are there any aftermarket protectors available?
I will value your responses.
HenryTI Own the Bests 4x4's by Far
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5th May 2009 1:27 pm
TallPaul
Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Near Reading
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Our HSE has no door sill protectors fitted. I think they are an accessory you can buy, EDIT: Just realised you are in Jo'berg, local dealer better option that I suggested sorry.
Not sure about the PDC question, but I think its been asked before, have you tried using search to look for the older threads?
5th May 2009 2:24 pm
PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
Welcome to the site Henry
1. The button on the dash is for ALL of your PDC sensors where fitted - not just for the front ones. I have a SE with factory-fit rear-only sensors and installed the proper LR front sensors myself.
You will need to make sure that your D3 has the wiring loom fitted by seeing if you have a 'spare' connector behind the left-hand headlamp (when looking at your D3 from the front).
Do a quick search for removing the headlamp unit, but it's very easy.
If you have this 'blank' connector, then you'll need to buy the front wiring loom, PDC sensors and Bezels. Once it's all fitted, you'll need to have them activated by your dealer or a suitably-equipped independant.
It's an easy enough job and I took around 2-3 hours to fit them. The dealer charged me 15 minutes labour rate to activate them.
As TallPaul mentioned, there's quite a few threads about this - have a scout around
2. Sill tread plates are available as accessories from any LR dealer - I don't think they are fitted as standard to any trim level.
I hope this helps,
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5th May 2009 2:41 pm
Tawny Owl
Member Since: 22 Oct 2008
Location: Here and there
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Welcome to the forum
Got 4 x new pdc sensors to keep the cost down if yer intrested ?
Not 100% sure if they are the same front and rear but the ones I got are the rear ones
5th May 2009 2:50 pm
Wex
Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
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PaulP , I presume that there is a module that drives these.Did you have to install a seperate module to drive your retrofit ones or did the existing factory fit control all ?
5th May 2009 3:59 pm
HenryT
Member Since: 04 May 2009
Location: Johannesburg
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Thanks. Your info has been a great help. I will persue my solution here in the back waters of SA. I have already spoken to my dealership who have never received a request like this before now. I Own the Bests 4x4's by Far
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5th May 2009 4:14 pm
PaulP
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Location: Barcelona
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Discowex wrote:
Did you have to install a seperate module to drive your retrofit ones or did the existing factory fit control all ?
In my case the existing PDC module is already connected up for front and rear sensors....the rear ones were obivously connected to the rear sensors and the front ones simply went to a blank connector behind the headlamp.
I seem to remember that Iain (10forCash) mentioned that the PDC module was not always wired up on all model years, but I guess that if you have the 'empty' connector, then it is probably safe to assume that you're good to go 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
5th May 2009 4:18 pm
PaulP
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Henry - you should be aware that (in my often misguided opinion) the front PDC sensors are not as useful/necessary as the rear ones.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that I installed them, but I have to admit that it is really not too difficult to gauge the distance from the front of the bumper and the sensors feel a little too sensitive for me....
Just bear in mind that on a scale of 1 (poor) to 10 (excellent), the rear sensors would score 8/10 for usefulness, whilst I would only give the front sensors 4/10 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
5th May 2009 4:25 pm
Wex
Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
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PaulP wrote:
Discowex wrote:
Did you have to install a seperate module to drive your retrofit ones or did the existing factory fit control all ?
In my case the existing PDC module is already connected up for front and rear sensors....the rear ones were obivously connected to the rear sensors and the front ones simply went to a blank connector behind the headlamp.
I seem to remember that Iain (10forCash) mentioned that the PDC module was not always wired up on all model years, but I guess that if you have the 'empty' connector, then it is probably safe to assume that you're good to go
I had a scan back through the retrofit threads ( including one by yourself) .Gist is If you have rear PDC and connector below front headlamp then its good to go for fitting and enabling front PDC.
In my case I have no PDC at all but have the connector below headlamp.Could I assume that the module is fitted somewhere ? I dont expect you to have the answer just a general question
5th May 2009 4:30 pm
PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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Hmmm....that's interesting - so it could be that the main wiring loom is common in this respect whether PDC is fitted or not.
You're right - I don't have a concrete answer, but I would almost guarantee that the PDC module is not fitted in your case. It's fitted in the boot area behind the side trim on the left-hand side (sitting in the car) towards the rear of the 2nd row seats - I think you'll need to remove the side trim panel to get a good look at the area 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
5th May 2009 4:46 pm
Wex
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Thanks Paul
5th May 2009 4:53 pm
HenryT
Member Since: 04 May 2009
Location: Johannesburg
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I have had to educate my local parts manager at LR re the PDC. He tried to tell me that the looms all differ between S SE & HSE!!? And they have never heard of "enabling" the front PDC?
Anyway priced the mod from Land Rover - R4200.00 - BPD 323. These guys are mad. The bezel cost more than the sensor. Together they are R850 each - BPD 65!
Will have to visit as scrapyard.I Own the Bests 4x4's by Far
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30th May 2009 5:29 am
Roel
Member Since: 16 Aug 2008
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Get in touch with Baben he might be able to activate the front PDC. See the Africa section. Looks like he is close to you.Roel
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30th May 2009 6:15 am
biggless
Member Since: 19 Oct 2007
Location: Durham
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The sill plates are not standard on the HSE. I got some for mine, but to be honest the proper LR ones are not brilliant. You can find some other posts which show some other types. As you can see, these ones don't really offer a great deal of protection. In the UK they cost about £110.
2nd Jun 2009 12:45 pm
jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
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Are the front PDC holes marked on the back of the front bumper so you know where to drill? I've got an '05 HSE and have thought about this mod. Just curious I its obvious as to wear the front PDC's go once you have the bumper off.....thanks!16 D4 Landmark
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