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Painting interior bits : have you done it ?
Hi boys and girls
thinking of changing the look of the light grey bits on the D3 : at least the dashboard side vents, the H center console surround, possibly the steering grey bits too, then why not the center lower console and the inside door handle.
my point is for that kid of money one deserves a better finish that the stock plain grey plastic.
our D3 is used off road and for Raids so i am not here for walnut finish or Ferrari red
i d like to know if one of you guys has ever gone that way and finish it all in silver or better in flat black / matt black or exterior color if chawton / zambezi / bonati or java etc.
seeing how the piano black lives on the FFRR TDV8, i want something sturdy and not glossy like that (finger prints are a mess after a couple of days).
anyway, i look forward to read your feedback on this, as i did not find anything on the forum yet
cheeriol=Oo\________/oO=l l:Ool======loO:l
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RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - Orkney Grey, on Black, on Piano Black.
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29th Nov 2008 11:37 am
Frodo
Member Since: 25 Oct 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 377
Greetings,
Years ago I had to replace a plastic bit in another car. The replacement part only came in black so the dealership had to paint it grey to match my interior. The paint did not adhere to the plastic very well and in short time started to peel off.
I suppose if the plastic had a proper coat of primer the paint would stay put.
To be honest with you I would be hesitant to try this.
Try it in a small spot first and see how it goes.
Best of luck!2000 Discovery 2 Kent Green (totaled) R.I.P.
2006 Discovery 3 HSE Bonatti Grey
..Plastic in a vehicle is painted anyway...even if its a textured finish to make all the panels match up when they are side to side they are spray painted with a two pack paint which needs to be dried in a tunnel oven.
Even though the plastic parts are made from the same plastic chip the actual processes vary across the machines, mold tools & some times different suppliers factories. The resulting finish is quite durable. I have seen parts for VDO (FFRR), Nissan, Land Rover (inc D3 parts), Toyota, Jaguar, BMW Mini, Rover, Ford all receiving this treatment.
I could ask a colleague (who still works at one of the plants) what type of paint it is they use, the skills I saw used was getting the actual application of the matte & semi matte finish to be even using a mixture of hand spray (quite a skill) & paint spray robot to match. A good paint spray user could get the same finish.BREXIT - done properly.
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30th Nov 2008 7:07 am
Frodo
Member Since: 25 Oct 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 377
That is interesting BLFarrar, thank you for posting it. I was not aware that most of the plastic was painted. In my case the dealership (GM Pontiac car) informed me that the plastic bit had to be sent to the body shop to be painted. Not exactly factory finish I suppose
I was not exactly happy about the outcome because they broke the piece in the first place!2000 Discovery 2 Kent Green (totaled) R.I.P.
2006 Discovery 3 HSE Bonatti Grey
the worst bit of any vehicle that the company I worked for produced was for the Mini convertible...
On the head rear seat head rests below the chromed plastic part is a two part black plastic thing that seem to defy all the attempts we made at trying to make the front bit match the back bit....the slight difference in the texture of the molded part altered the colour of the paint we applied. I never saw one that matched.
The Mini interior plastic parts I saw made were the worst we produced - the tools that were used were absolute garbage & caused us to do lots of repairs just to keep them operational - the tools were made from substandard metal & the pre machined castings had flaws which caused lots of cooling water leakage.
Realise that a mold tool for a volume vehicle interior part is a very high cost item - maybe 20 to 30 tons of special steel made in two halves (Fixed & moving) - each tool has the impression of one specific trim item (& this has to cover all the variations of the vehicle) - then there is LHD & RHD.
This is the reason why interior plastic trim isn't changed or face lifted - the one exception I saw was the change of the Freelander dash - this was done using a "topper" - another molding fastened to the top of the original, which means the original parts & new style parts are made with very little extra tooling cost.BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
30th Nov 2008 11:10 pm
Verydisco
Member Since: 02 Jan 2005
Location: A bit there, a bit over there and sometime at home, France
Posts: 1006
Re: ....Most of the rigid
BLFarrar wrote:
I could ask a colleague (who still works at one of the plants) what type of paint it is they use
Hi BL
I am taking it all apart as we speak, plus various bits, then will drop it all monday a the paint shop, so yes i would like it if you could ask him
thanks a lot in advance.l=Oo\________/oO=l l:Ool======loO:l
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RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - Orkney Grey, on Black, on Piano Black.
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20th Jun 2009 1:39 pm
caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Done properly it should be good, but the risk would be the paint will wear on the bits you make regular contact with.“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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21st Jun 2009 3:20 am
jjvd21
Member Since: 16 Jul 2007
Location: Chicago
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Verydisco please post pictures of the final painted bits16 D4 Landmark
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21st Jun 2009 5:40 am
Verydisco
Member Since: 02 Jan 2005
Location: A bit there, a bit over there and sometime at home, France
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caverD3 wrote:
Done properly it should be good, but the risk would be the paint will wear on the bits you make regular contact with.
Correct, this is why i am taking it to a proper paintshop (they do repairs for the LR dealership next door amont other stuff, including some "tunning" painting (not that it si a plus, but they care about the job being properley done.)
jjvd21 wrote:
Verydisco please post pictures of the final painted bits
Wll do mate, i shot everysingle step of it alll=Oo\________/oO=l l:Ool======loO:l
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RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - Orkney Grey, on Black, on Piano Black.
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
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Previous:
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DISCOVERY III x3
DISCOVERY II x3
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21st Jun 2009 9:51 am
discolee
Member Since: 12 Dec 2008
Location: oatcake city
Posts: 206
I decided to paint my trims as per the original piano black set.
i.e gloss black side vents and gloss black/silver H trim.
Click image to enlarge
To reduce the paint edge between the black and silver on the H trim the silver was applied first then the full trim lacquered.
The trim was then "keyed" with a scotch pad and masked for the black base to be applied. This was then unmasked and fully lacquered again with the result having little step between the two colours.
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Location: East Midlands
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That black looks really good Discolee.
What type of paint did you use and where did you buy it from?
25th Jun 2009 3:26 pm
nashvegas
Member Since: 14 Jun 2009
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 45
That black looks great - couple questions - Tonga Green?
I have been thinking about doing this on my 05 HSE as well -- exactly what you did. My exterior is Tonga Green, interior is the Alpaca/Black combo just like yours.
What do you think the Tonga Green might look like? I think it might look VERY cool... but am not totally sure. You think I should do black or the green?
And did you have it pro painted or did you do it yourself with spray cans?
25th Jun 2009 3:58 pm
discolee
Member Since: 12 Dec 2008
Location: oatcake city
Posts: 206
They were painted in standard automotive basecoat and 2k lacquer the same as whats on a car body
Its very durable and once fully dry will take the odd knock etc
I work in a paintshop so had all the required spray booths/ drying ovens etc required for a professional finish
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just got back from the painter....
see you in a couple of hours... l=Oo\________/oO=l l:Ool======loO:l
Current
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - Orkney Grey, on Black, on Piano Black.
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
FREELANDER 2 Td4 HSE "000" - Santorinin Black on Black
Gap Diagnostics' Classic and BT IID Tools!
Previous:
RANGE ROVER TDV8 x3
RANGE ROVER Td6 x1
RANGE ROVER Classic 3.5L V8 x1
DISCOVERY III x3
DISCOVERY II x3
DISCOVERY I x4
25th Jun 2009 5:47 pm
Verydisco
Member Since: 02 Jan 2005
Location: A bit there, a bit over there and sometime at home, France
Posts: 1006
Here you go, Performance Charcoal, colorcoded to the BB6 Wheels.
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Current
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - Orkney Grey, on Black, on Piano Black.
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
FREELANDER 2 Td4 HSE "000" - Santorinin Black on Black
Gap Diagnostics' Classic and BT IID Tools!
Previous:
RANGE ROVER TDV8 x3
RANGE ROVER Td6 x1
RANGE ROVER Classic 3.5L V8 x1
DISCOVERY III x3
DISCOVERY II x3
DISCOVERY I x4
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