Member Since: 28 Oct 2010
Location: london
Posts: 78
winter driving and DSC
does anyone know if DSC should be turned off driving up hill in slipper conditions - i have winter tyres fitted
where we go skiing there is a hard steep 10 / 15 mile road up to the resort (Flaine) and last year i could feel the power come off going round the hairpins - i assumed this was the DSC coming on ? i didn't have winter tyres on last year though
any advice appreciated
9th Feb 2014 7:02 am
Alanpatt
Member Since: 26 Dec 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 44
Not sure if this helps, but, with my Merc vans they recommend that traction control (asr) is turned off when on snow.....
9th Feb 2014 8:46 am
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
Posts: 10865
Leave DSC on if you have winters fitted turn dial to GGS let the magic monkey do her stuff
If you have to ask about DSC then leave well alone its there for a reason
Short steep muddy climbs where you need momentum to crest (properly steep, as in marginal for standing up) then maybe. On snowy roads? Never. As Ken says, put it in Grass Gravel Snow on terrain response and the anti-gravity pixies will usher you up the hill.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
9th Feb 2014 9:25 am
gavinEd
Member Since: 12 Oct 2013
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 87
Land Rover Experience recommended that I switch DSC off going uphill on a steep slope, but keep power going on GGS/M&R; keep DSC on going downhill or on the level.Discovery 3 HSE Auto (2007)
VW Golf TDI (2010)
Jaguar Sovereign 4.2 (1984)
Discovery 3 S Auto (2005), now sold
9th Feb 2014 9:48 am
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
Posts: 10865
Different conditions different rules
BMW Merc rear drives on Winters DSC off, LR product on WINTERS keep it on especially on overseas roads were they are used to the proper conditions in the UK it makes no difference as you are stuck behind a
9th Feb 2014 9:56 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50934
Agree with Ken & Al
The key to DSC is to consider whether it believes that the vehicle is unstable ....going up a steep muddy or snowy slope in itself does not necessarily mean that the vehicle will become unstable... on the other hand when you are on a hill in rutted mud or perhaps rutted compacted snow then any sudden changes in direction caused by undulations or the ruts tram-lining the vehicle can cause DSC to think that you are losing it and it will react by amongst other things cutting the power.
The only time I would switch it off is if such terrain as described had already impeded my progress 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
9th Feb 2014 10:08 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72787
As said above, DSC off helps you keep speed up when you need the momentum in mud, sand and going up steep scrabbly slopes. Not sure the same approach is wise in snow as in mud, sand & slopes you will stop instantly(ish) when you take your foot off the throttle, won't be the case in snow.
My sage advice? Pack a shovel & use it sooner rather than as a last resort when you think you're failing to make forward progress (i.e. stuck).
Just a thought.
9th Feb 2014 10:39 am
mkacala
Member Since: 28 Oct 2010
Location: london
Posts: 78
guys thankyou all very much ! i have winter tyres on her so the outcome is keep DSC on and if it gets rough (!) snow on the ground etc also engage snow mode !
if all fails (and its snowing heavily) pull over and get the wife to fit the chains (only on front wheels) but lend her my gloves since i'm nice like that !
looks like there will be loads of snow this year its been snowing for about 3 weeks non stop !
9th Feb 2014 5:19 pm
LHD
Member Since: 05 Apr 2006
Location: Lugano area
Posts: 689
I'm presently climbing from 270m above sea level to 600m above and I change nothing to make it up the hill. The winter tyres are fantastic and the whole experience is absolutely solid (it's snowing for the 3rd time in a week for me right now).
In short....you're not going to get stuck and you have to give it everything around a hairpin to get it to slip.
The only time I've had to do anything is to get out of our street which does not get cleared by the commune and D was not cutting it from a standing start on a 1 in 4 hairpin curve. I dropped it into Lo ratio but I guess the Gravel/Snow programme would have seen me get out too. The snow was only a foot deep so Lo might have been overkill.
Downhill on winters is fine too - as long as you don't go too fast. No slippage.
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
