Dannyson
Member Since: 15 Oct 2014
Location: Newquay, Cornwall
Posts: 820
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thanks xcentric - may just do that! 
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 14th May 2015 9:46 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
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Dannyson wrote:Red Merie - being a fellow Cornish resident - are you going to have yours undersealed - got a bit of a hang up about it after Mr T reported 'underbody' corrosion on my Land Cruiser - I always made sure I hosed the underneath off on the occasional time the roads were salted - maybe I'm getting a bit OCD about this....
Any options you have gone for? - I should consider?
It's tempting to treat the chassis to a little Waxoyl from new but, at 30,000 miles a year, it's likely I might wear it out long before it rusts!
Options are easy - all I needed to add were Privacy Glass and a Fridge. At some point it'll get a tow bar and the side rubbing strips would make a huge amount of sense for protection against car park door dings on those huge, flat, doors that are likely to show up every indiscretion! It even now comes with a proper spare as standard - so that's one less thing to buy 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 14th May 2015 10:33 pm |
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Robse
Member Since: 10 Jun 2014
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 498
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I'm not so sure about that Red ! Took the tow electrics cover off mine the other day and there's rust in there already - 8 months old ?! Velar MY18 D180 S Narvik
Discovery MY2015 3.0 SDV6 SE Corris - Gone
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| 14th May 2015 11:33 pm |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50936
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My brake discs rust after a days rain ...I won't be getting them wayoyl'd
Waste of time and money  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 14th May 2015 11:50 pm |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
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Robse wrote:I'm not so sure about that Red ! Took the tow electrics cover off mine the other day and there's rust in there already - 8 months old ?!
Mine is ten years old and its the same rust on it that was there 9 1/2 years ago. I wouldn't get too precious about it. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner 
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 14th May 2015 11:59 pm |
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fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1243
 
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WhiskyDisco wrote:I was speaking this week with someone working on the new Disco 5. I was told that the release date is 6th June 2016 and that the launch price is going to be a few hundred pounds cheaper than the D4 - reason being the chassis is shared with the FFRR.
Perhaps that's the reason why model 16 is early June with special final run of limited editions next year ?
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| 15th May 2015 10:30 pm |
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Clubber
Member Since: 11 Aug 2008
Location: Teesside
Posts: 372
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The guy from Ripon Landrover at the spring adventure said he was expecting the new disco to be released in 2017 or even into 2018 for deliveries. He said something about it coinciding with the new defender since the new discovery is not expected to have a commercial model.
Might be a loaf of guff mind, but this is what he said when I told him I was trying to decide to change now or wait for the D5. He said that they found that customers who had a good D4 were tending to hang on to them rather than trade them in.
Made me think twice about changing. There's nothing else I'd rather drive but I would love to have an updated version. Bri
D4 HSE Luxury
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| 26th May 2015 9:17 am |
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DG
Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50936
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Whatever happens we all want to be out of diesels by then ..they are going to get clobbered ...even Euro6 is looking under threat with the current momentum.
...petrol hybrid for me next even if it means moving from a Disco 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 26th May 2015 9:44 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
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Makes you wonder. I certainly wouldn't like to buy a new Euro 5 diesel now, but there is very little rational reason to clobber Euro 6 diesels. Though being rational isn't something known to bother either the press of local authorities looking for additional tax revenue, using an ill founded "green" justification  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 26th May 2015 10:30 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Euro 6 is already getting bad press for not working in real world conditions. This is part of a Forbes article referring to last weekends Sunday Times http://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/201...ers-big/2/
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Britain’s Sunday Times, in an article headlined “The great diesel car deception speeding us to a toxic deathâ€, demanded tough action to force manufacturers to clean up diesels. This might be difficult because the Sunday Times said some vehicles, certified as Euro 6 compliant, failed the test completely, while others didn’t. Under acceleration many vehicles exceeded the base standard of 0.08 grammes of NOx per kilometre (0.128 per mile). The Sunday Times cited a report by Emissions Analytics which said various diesels from Vauxhall-Opel, Citroen, BMW and Mazda failed the test, while a Mercedes-Benz C220 and a VW Golf 2-liter passed it easily. Experts say the regulations work if the engine is engineered to high standards.
21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 26th May 2015 10:53 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
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Interesting, though this article does make some suspect assumptions:
1. That Emissions Analytics data is any more reliable than the official test procedure.
2. That the inability to meet independent test criteria is any less reliable in diesels than it is in other types of motors.
For instance, I had the use of 2 Hybrid Vauxhall Ampera's over a total of 2 weeks and around 1,500 miles. These are cars where drive is electrical 100% of the time, with the petrol engine recharging the batteries where necessary. They were great to drive and I enjoyed my time with them, but the fuel economy figures were way off. The official figures were suggesting something like 80 mpg without recharging batteries from the mains but, with economical driving, it was returning around 42 mpg. I think it's fair to assume that the quoted CO2 figure of 27g/km (along with the relevant NOx figures) were equally far of the mark.
If diesels are demonised for falling short, then let's have a look at how all the others perform as well.
The danger may be that articles like this may shed little light, but they will swing public opinion and it's something that policy makers may use to our detriment.
As an aside, people removing Cats & DPF's and disabling EGR's will only make things worse for all of us, as not only do we have to breath the stuff, but overall emissions figures drive this kind of policy. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 26th May 2015 11:31 am |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
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Discovery 5 will be here in 2016 I recon MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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| 26th May 2015 8:20 pm |
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pagoda
Member Since: 13 Aug 2009
Location: Not London Anymore (or the US for that matter)
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Dannyson,
Sent you a PM. If you've got sticker shock from a new HSE, my 12 month old 6000 miler (black with privacy; pristine, but she needs to go) may ease the pain. As I said in my initial post on this, if it doesn't go here, some stealer will take it and then - Heaven forfend - rip off a new potential member down the line.
HTH.
PAGODA
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| 26th May 2015 9:14 pm |
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DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 924
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I've seen the Disco 5 at Solihull albeit in black and white camo wrap
DS / Evoque front end
RR Sport back end with a higher roof line height
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| 13th Oct 2015 8:28 pm |
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Slider
Member Since: 12 Sep 2015
Location: Staffs
Posts: 32
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D5....think DS but slightly larger with roof mods...will be a bit marmite for D4 community...
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| 13th Oct 2015 9:30 pm |
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